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#301234 - 05/16/17 01:18 PM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
rporter314 Offline
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for the narcissist, Mr Trump, another is always at fault

I think I asked the question long ago whether a narcissist could run government effectively and I believe my answer was possibly

I am now reconsidering both my naivete with regard to narcissists and my conclusion

you may now pull out the wet noodle ... I await the forums flogging
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#301238 - 05/16/17 09:06 PM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: rporter314]
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Quote:
a narcissist could run government effectively


The big problem is that a President can't know everything. He can't be omniscient, but Trump's narcissism makes him think he is. He is spectacularly incompetent at doing the job, but lacks the ability to see that. A President who is incompetent and knows it can surround himself with experts and pay attention to them, so he can do a passable job. Somebody so screwed up he ignores his expert advisers, and indeed undermines them at every opportunity, is hopeless.

Trump is gone in a year or two. If Congressional Republicans fail to act, then they mostly lose their jobs at the next election. All those gerrymandered districts designed to give them 5% leads will backfire and result in a massive loss in Congress. Their districts mostly have no depth of support: Designing them for 5% leads will not be enough to save them.

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#301241 - 05/16/17 09:33 PM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Comey Memo Says Trump Asked Him to End Flynn Investigation

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WASHINGTON — President Trump asked the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, to shut down the federal investigation into Mr. Trump’s former national security adviser, Michael T. Flynn, in an Oval Office meeting in February, according to a memo that Mr. Comey wrote shortly after the meeting.

“I hope you can let this go,” the president told Mr. Comey, according to the memo.

The existence of Mr. Trump’s request is the clearest evidence that the president has tried to directly influence the Justice Department and F.B.I. investigation into links between Mr. Trump’s associates and Russia.

Mr. Comey wrote the memo detailing his conversation with the president immediately after the meeting, which took place the day after Mr. Flynn resigned, according to two people who read the memo. The memo was part of a paper trail Mr. Comey created documenting what he perceived as the president’s improper efforts to influence an ongoing investigation. An F.B.I. agent’s contemporaneous notes are widely held up in court as credible evidence of conversations.


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“I hope you can see your way clear to letting this go, to letting Flynn go,” Mr. Trump told Mr. Comey, according to the memo. “He is a good guy. I hope you can let this go.


Edited by Schlack (05/16/17 09:51 PM)
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#301242 - 05/16/17 09:57 PM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: Schlack]
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I'm not usually a meme person but this one got to me.

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#301243 - 05/17/17 12:37 AM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: Schlack]
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Drums keep pounding rhythm to the brain

Ladi dadi dee.........

Ladi dadi daaaa...............ohhh.....

Chit.....
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#301244 - 05/17/17 01:18 AM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: Ken Condon]
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Although---this is likely true---regarding most things a competent POTUS should know.....
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#301245 - 05/17/17 03:03 AM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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Olbermann counted 17 new charges on the Impeachment Bill just last week.

Oldermann counts 17 new charges

This bill is going to be so long nobody in Congress will bother to read it.


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#301254 - 05/17/17 10:40 PM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pondering_it_all]
Schlack Offline
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Special counsel appointed in Russia probe

caution autoplay video


Not sure if this is still dripping or whether its beginning to stream like russian hooker pee
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#301265 - 05/19/17 04:18 PM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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So what's President Trump up to today, FR May 19th 2017?

Donald J Trump is still lying that his Campaign had "zero, none" contact with Russia (besides Jeff Sessions’s two, and Mike Flynn’s four, Carter Page’s trip, Milwaukee Sheriff DAVID CLARKE’S TRIP, Paul Manafort’s entire adult life spent licking Vladimir Putin’s vag), there were oh, an extra EIGHTEEN MEETINGS WITH RUSSIA, many of which came before Trump was even the GOP nominee.

So glad that Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein has looked far and wide and collected the scattered remains of his reputation and appointed straight-arrow Robert Mueller as Special Counsel.


So what's Vice-President Pence up to today, FR May 19th 2017?

Mike Pence is lying too. How do we know that Mike Pence is lying? His lips are moving, and because Pence got a letter waaaaay back on November 18th 2016, from Rep. Elijah Cummings, the ranking member of the House Oversight Committee, and that letter said:

Quote:
“Dear Vice President-elect Mike Pence, This is just a note to the Future You (like about March 2017) letting you know you probably shouldn’t lie about whether or not you knew Mike Flynn was a foreign agent, who is about to NOT RAID ISIS BECAUSE TURKEY DOESN’T WANT HIM TO, is being paid so much bank by Turkey and Flynn is totally lying about it.”

The boring official version here.
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#301267 - 05/19/17 04:31 PM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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Get used to saying President Paul Ryan. Hmm
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