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#301432 - 05/31/17 01:53 AM RoundTable for June 2017
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Welcome to the ReaderRant Roundtable for June 2017




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On This Day In History: June 1st, 1936


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Have a great June everybody!



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#301440 - 05/31/17 11:49 PM Re: RoundTable for June 2017 [Re: Greger]
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Greger, you have given me NEW inspiration!
Next time I am at bat for the RT, it will not be the usual tripe.
I'm taking the snarky route!!
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#301441 - 05/31/17 11:59 PM Re: RoundTable for June 2017 [Re: Greger]
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#301475 - 06/03/17 10:53 PM Re: RoundTable for June 2017 [Re: Greger]
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#301490 - 06/04/17 03:17 AM Re: RoundTable for June 2017 [Re: Greger]
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HBO finally put the show up last night's Real Time to view for those of us who didn't watch the show live because they edited out a phrase that Bill Maher uttered.

Maher was interviewing junior Senator Sasse and Sasse was talking about Millennials in his book in which he says that "there's something weird in human history if you can't tell 10, 15, 20 and 25 year olds apart - because that's new."

The topic turned to dressing up for Halloween.

Maher: "Halloween used to be a kid thing."

Sasse: "It's not anymore?"

Maher: "Not out here, adults dress-up for Halloween. They don't do that in Nebraska?"

Sasse: "It's frowned upon. We don't do that quite as much."

Maher: "I need to get to Nebraska more often."

Sasse: "We'd love to have you in the fields with us."

Maher: "Work in the fields? Senator, I'm a house n----r."

That's it. It was a joke. It was actually funny for a white guy to turn the slavery paradigm on its head and say it about whites. No need for everyone to get all riled-up - which nearly everyone did. Hmm
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#301583 - 06/09/17 06:43 PM Re: RoundTable for June 2017 [Re: Greger]
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Q: What do you call a gay white nationalist?
A: Gaycist

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#301596 - 06/09/17 10:35 PM Re: RoundTable for June 2017 [Re: pdx rick]
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Bill Maher is half Irish and half Jewish. Both of which have known a lot of repression, bigotry, and racism dating back long before the Black race was forced into slavery.

Gerald of Wales had this to say about the Irish back in 1185...
Quote:
They use their fields mostly for pasture. Little is cultivated and even less is sown. The problem here is not the quality of the soil but rather the lack of industry on the part of those who should cultivate it. This laziness means that the different types of minerals with which hidden veins of the earth are full are neither mined nor exploited in any way. They do not devote themselves to the manufacture of flax or wool, nor to the practice of any mechanical or mercantile act. Dedicated only to leisure and laziness, this is a truly barbarous people. They depend on animals for their livelihood and they live like animals.


Black people aren't the only ones who have suffered at the hands of white Europeans.
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#301597 - 06/09/17 11:23 PM Re: RoundTable for June 2017 [Re: Greger]
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High praise indeed for the Irish --- if only Gerald of Wales had been able to understand what he was saying !!
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#301619 - 06/11/17 07:03 PM Re: RoundTable for June 2017 [Re: Greger]
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I am SO proud of Los Angeles today.
Normally this would be the day for the L.A. Gay Pride Parade but the gay community decided that they wanted to OPEN UP THE TENT and make it a much wider and broader theme: RESIST!!

And hundreds of thousands more are showing up to take part, and it is wonderful.

Thank you so much to the L.A. area gay community for opening up your embrace to share. We know that the larger community was always welcome in your parade anyway but it was a selfless act of giving and sharing for you to make such a bold and generous move like this.
It shows that you love the larger community, and the turnout of all the happy and committed RESISTORS shows that the city is loving you BACK.

Reuters: RESIST MARCH



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#301628 - 06/12/17 03:59 AM Re: RoundTable for June 2017 [Re: Greger]
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LA's pride parade was today? That's a bit early. It's only the 11th. Hmm Are you sure it was THE Pride Parade?

Seattle had a Gay #Resist March today as well, but the Pride Parade is the 25th - as it should be.
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#301629 - 06/12/17 04:00 AM Re: RoundTable for June 2017 [Re: Greger]
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Have you seen the new Donald Trump-image buttplug? laugh

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#301861 - 06/24/17 08:34 PM Re: RoundTable for June 2017 [Re: Greger]
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What rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?

Justice Kennedy retiring - WaPo
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#301862 - 06/24/17 09:07 PM Re: RoundTable for June 2017 [Re: Greger]
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NO!

Not under this President and Congress!


eek eek eek
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#301864 - 06/25/17 01:53 AM Re: RoundTable for June 2017 [Re: Greger]
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Justice Kennedy is NOT gonna to retire. I provide as my evidence: How This Supreme Court Case Will Affect the Next Election - TIME. I don't think he'll retire before writing this decision. He's been waiting 13 years for this case.
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#301895 - 06/27/17 06:35 AM Re: RoundTable for June 2017 [Re: Greger]
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I'm a bit curious about the Supreme Court decision to let a tiny bit of the travel ban EO take effect. Wasn't the purpose of the travel ban so we could be safe while the INS et al reviewed their vetting process? None of the TROs stopped that review from happening, they just kept people traveling. It's been over 150 days since that EO. Haven't they finished the process review? What have they been doing? Not reviewing the process? I'm sure it doesn't require every single INS employee to do it. Do they really want thousands of INS employees sitting on their thumbs while a 10-20 member board thinks about improvements for 90 days.

Isn't the ban now moot since the required 90 days is well over? Or has the "process review" always just been a sham? Theater so it LOOKS like Trump is accomplishing something.

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#301896 - 06/27/17 08:37 AM Re: RoundTable for June 2017 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Isn't the ban now moot since the required 90 days is well over? Or has the "process review" always just been a sham? Theater so it LOOKS like Trump is accomplishing something.

Bingo. Hmm
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#301898 - 06/27/17 12:04 PM Re: RoundTable for June 2017 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Trump is all theater without substance. I think the semi-lifting of the ban is also theater without substance. If one's concern is "judicial activism", their approach is a pure example of what that is: substituting their opinion for the president's. It is also indicative of their thought processes. It takes 4 votes to accept a case, but 5 to stay the decision. They didn't have 5 votes to overturn, but don't agree on a reason. The "baby splitting" option protects the majority of visa applicants, and gives the administration time to develop their "vetting" procedures. By the time the case comes up, it will be moot. (Remember, one of the judges blocked that, too.) Ultimately, the only "harm" is delay, not denial - so, those with "bona fide ties" already won, and the rest will win, but in a few months. I think it will be a 6-3 decision, with only the Thomas-Alito-ScaliaGorsuch bloc dissenting. Roberts/Kennedy were hung up on the process.
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#301899 - 06/27/17 12:16 PM Re: RoundTable for June 2017 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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More specific prediction: 4-2-3 decision, unless Roberts decides to vote with the T-A-G bloc to boost his "conservative" status. If not, he writes the decision (my bet). Otherwise, Sotomayor or Kagan does. Kennedy and Ginsburg want to write important decisions. This will not be that, but a discussion of process. (Unless one of them wants to write a decision about "balance of power"- then it's a tussle between Roberts and Ginsburg.) Overall - 3 opinions, with one concurrence and one dissent.
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