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#301560 - 06/07/17 11:30 PM Re: Worst Case Scenario [Re: agnostic]
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Originally Posted By: agnostic
I've always wondered (except for rickie Sanitorium) how many self-described GOP Christians actually believe (in those tiny lumps of coal in their chest cavity which they claim represent their heart and soul) what they profess.

We have a swearing, foul-mouthed, mysogenistic, self-absorbed, liar in thief, who would invite Three Corinthians to bar, then stiff them for the tab. He picks up the "Christian" label like a diarrhetic picks up toilet paper, and usually for the same purpose.

Ahhh... I see you are "one of those..."

Gladementia, aggie!
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#301565 - 06/08/17 04:39 AM Re: Worst Case Scenario [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Today in the Senate hearing Four officials refused to exonerate President Trump.If Intel Officials Could Have Testified to Trumpís Obstruction Innocence, They Would Have. Slate. I think we've moved further than I imagined. I think they wouldn't talk about it because it is part of Mueller's investigation. It's like admitting you've testified before a Grand jury. Trump's in deep, deep trouble.
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#301568 - 06/08/17 12:56 PM Re: Worst Case Scenario [Re: NW Ponderer]
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except there is no evidence any of them testified before a grand jury. i suspect a good reporter would have found schedules for each and found the times when it was possible.

i concluded since each works directly for the president, they deferred to presidents counsel for legal direction which was lacking. once that direction should be given they would be on some legal grounds.
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#301575 - 06/09/17 02:25 AM Re: Worst Case Scenario [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Maybe they haven't talked to the Special Prosecutor, but they will.

Watergate took almost 2 years. We might get a Democratic House and impeachment before the Special Prosecutor is ready. Or maybe he reports to that impeachment proceeding.

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#301600 - 06/10/17 12:06 AM Re: Worst Case Scenario [Re: NW Ponderer]
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I realized that I said something innartfully. I didn't mean to suggest it was a grand jury proceeding, but that it was like a grand jury secrecy requirement. You know Rogers and Coats are going to be interviewed by Mueller, and may already have been. That's a criminal probe, too. The don't want to screw up Flynn's prosecution.
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#301603 - 06/10/17 06:01 AM Re: Worst Case Scenario [Re: NW Ponderer]
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True. Even Comey had to go closed-session for some of his testimony. That may not be just because the testimony was secret. It may be to not taint a prospective jury.

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#301605 - 06/10/17 12:50 PM Re: Worst Case Scenario [Re: NW Ponderer]
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you can taint 12 Trump supporters all you want .... not guilty and innocent is the pre-ordained verdict

maybe this is double pre-ordained .... borders on the Godliness of Herr .... I mean Mr Trump
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#301609 - 06/10/17 06:23 PM Re: Worst Case Scenario [Re: NW Ponderer]
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I doubt Trump will sit before a jury, until after his Presidency. I was thinking more about his toadies trials. How many of Nixon's guys were prosecuted? FORTY!

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#301872 - 06/25/17 02:31 PM Re: Worst Case Scenario [Re: pondering_it_all]
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A serious question: does anyone here think that the Trump administration is not as bad (or worse) than predicted?
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#301880 - 06/25/17 08:20 PM Re: Worst Case Scenario [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
A serious question: does anyone here think that the Trump administration is not as bad (or worse) than predicted?

I'm on the other extreme: The Trump Administration is much worse than I expected. crazy

I never expected our own President of the United States to act like a bloated orange petulant four year old toddler. Hmm

...and the lies - boy they're coming fast 'n furious. Didn't expect that either. shocked
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