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#301632 - 06/12/17 06:55 AM Re: Saudi Arabia - yet again [Re: pondering_it_all]
pdx rick Offline
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
The revolutionary guard took all the Americans at the Tehran embassy hostage and kept them until Reagan was inaugurated.

Which the Reagan Administration Transition Team negotiated their release prior to the inauguration of Reagan. No wonder Trump and his team thought they could meet with Russian Spy/Ambassador Sergey Kislyak prior to January 20th 2017.

Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Funny that Iran-Contra started with Reagan's men contacting the Iranians before his election to influence the American election by keeping the hostages for some additional months to help defeat Carter. Sound familiar?

Oopsie. I was premature on that one! blush
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#301637 - 06/12/17 05:41 PM Re: Saudi Arabia - yet again [Re: jgw]
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"But it isn't fair to claim that the Saudis are our enemies because 11 of the 9/11 hijackers were Saudi. That's like equating the US Government with Timothy McVeigh because after all, he was an American. The official Saudi position on Al Queda and Osama Bin Ladan is execution by beheading."

I am not blaming 911 all on the Saudis and that is just part of what they do. For instance, they promised to stop the Wahabis from running their school system, several years ago - never happened. About that. You are, I hope, aware that ISIS uses Saudi schoolbooks in their own schools? Makes sense to me in that those school books, which preach the evils of America as the Great Satan (and all the rest of it), remain in use throughout the entire world! The Saudis have been exporting 'Wahabi missionaries and schoolbooks" for years! There are many who say that the Wahabis are the main source of extremists. My concern are the mosques which Saudi Arabia setup and staffed, in America. Hopefully we are keeping a close look at those as, given what we do know, its likely they are working hard at developing their own little band of terrorists.

I should add that I have friends, who are Muslim, who have told me that they have these same concerns. The Wahabi Muslim sect is virtually the only religious group that uses suicide as a tool of their religion. Christians did the same thing during the crusades but, as far as I can tell, never did that again, ie. virtually EVERY other religion on the face of the planet hates suicide.

In other words, Saudi Arabia continues with teaching hate in their schools and exporting same, all under Saudi/Wahabi sponsorship. Please also keep in mind that our president and Liar in Chief, thinks the Saudis are his very best friends.

#301639 - 06/12/17 05:50 PM Re: Saudi Arabia - yet again [Re: jgw]
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There a lot of factions in America, all doing and promoting different ideas. There is no "American position" on anything. Even the mainstream Parties of Democrats and Republicans have very different positions and programs.

The same is true in Saudi Arabia, and in fact in every other country.
“Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”

John Steinbeck

#301681 - 06/14/17 05:51 PM Re: Saudi Arabia - yet again [Re: jgw]
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"American position", I think, references an official position of the American Government. Right now we have a position in the Middle East and that position is to get into the middle of a religious war, between Sunni and Shea and choose the Sunni side. As previously stated, this is the side which has flooded the world with Terrorists and also seems to be the side chosen by Israel.

Interesting times.............

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