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#302178 - 07/10/17 06:23 PM Re: BRUTAL: Australian Journalist Sums Up Trump's G20 Visit In 2 Minutes [Re: pdx rick]
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Who the hell cares? He is from Australia, now the only way he could be dismissed any easier is if he was from CNN.

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#302180 - 07/10/17 08:13 PM Re: BRUTAL: Australian Journalist Sums Up Trump's G20 Visit In 2 Minutes [Re: logtroll]
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Science supports my stance on the CO2 issue. It's not a belief.

I would also like to see such a display of why people prefer to play "Simon Says" with self proclaimed authorities, instead of analyzing facts with logic and support the most reasonable position.
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#302181 - 07/10/17 10:09 PM Re: BRUTAL: Australian Journalist Sums Up Trump's G20 Visit In 2 Minutes [Re: pdx rick]
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You can fill a glass-walled chamber with different levels of CO2 in air, and then point a bright light into the chamber for a fixed period. You will see different absorption of heat into the gas that increases with CO2 level. The science is so simple grade school kids could do it. The only equipment required is a thermometer.

Nature puts CO2 into the atmosphere from various sources, and nature removes CO2 from the atmosphere (mostly into the ocean where it precipitates out as calcium carbonate). That was in rough equilibrium before the industrial revolution. Since then humans have added a lot of CO2, but the movement of that CO2 into the ocean has not increased much. That's why human contribution to atmospheric CO2 is important and maybe ultimately lethal to the human species.

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#302185 - 07/10/17 11:08 PM Re: BRUTAL: Australian Journalist Sums Up Trump's G20 Visit In 2 Minutes [Re: bigswede]
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Originally Posted By: bigswede
Science supports my stance on the CO2 issue. It's not a belief.

Okay, cite a few scientific sources for your claim. You can start with telling us what your stance is on the CO2 issue.


Edited by logtroll (07/10/17 11:57 PM)
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#302188 - 07/10/17 11:56 PM Re: BRUTAL: Australian Journalist Sums Up Trump's G20 Visit In 2 Minutes [Re: logtroll]
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Al Franken explains a few things:

Boiling the frog
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#302192 - 07/11/17 03:43 AM Re: BRUTAL: Australian Journalist Sums Up Trump's G20 Visit In 2 Minutes [Re: pdx rick]
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Wasting your time trying to discuss climate change with Mr Swede. There is no proof he would accept for any of the firm scientific principles used including the mathematical modelling.
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#302193 - 07/11/17 03:44 AM Re: BRUTAL: Australian Journalist Sums Up Trump's G20 Visit In 2 Minutes [Re: bigswede]
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you missed the point
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#302196 - 07/11/17 09:43 AM Re: BRUTAL: Australian Journalist Sums Up Trump's G20 Visit In 2 Minutes [Re: Ma_Republican]
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Originally Posted By: Ma_Republican
Who the hell cares? He is from Australia, now the only way he could be dismissed any easier is if he was from CNN.

Tim

YOU should care. John Ulmann is a conservative - albeit an Australian one. Aren't conservatives supposed to be Patriotic and love their county and not want their President to cause the United States to cease being a world leader?

Guess it was all breathy, hyperbole on the American conservative's part. coffee
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#302204 - 07/11/17 11:16 AM Re: BRUTAL: Australian Journalist Sums Up Trump's G20 Visit In 2 Minutes [Re: pdx rick]
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Do you wish to read up on the climate fraud?
Since reporter didn't want to give the time of day in not explaining what he meant by 14 words. Here is a long list of links to sites telling the story you don't get in MSM. No, I won't take the trouble to url every link. Use these phrases to search the internet. Plenty of facts to be had there.
Knock yourselves out, gentlemen!



1000Frolley
Bishop Hill
Climate Audit
CO2 Coalition
Climate Etc.
Dr. Roy Spencer
No Tricks Zone
Climate Exam
Committee for a Constructive Tomorrow
CO2 Science&
Climate 4 You
Real Science
WiseEnergy
International Conferences on Climate Change
C3 Headlines
Cornwall Alliance for the Stewardship of Creation
Global Science Report
Gelbspan Files
Climate in Review, by C. Jeffery Small
Center on Climate and Environmental Policy, The Heartland Institute
Climate Policy, The Heritage Foundation
Global Warming, Cato Institute
Center for Global Food Issues, Hudson Institute
JoNova, hosted by Joanne Nova;
GlobalClimateScam.com
Center for Energy and Environment, Competitive Enterprise Institute
GlobalWarming.org
Cooler Heads Digest
Power for USA
Science and Environmental Policy Project (SEPP)
ClimateWiki
Master Resource
The Climate Bet
International Climate Science Coalition
Climate Scientists' Register
Science and Public Policy Institute
Climate Depot by Marc Morano&
World Climate Report by Dr. Patrick Michaels
Biweekly Updates from the Cooler Heads Coalition
Watts Up With That? by Anthony Watts
ICECAP by Joseph D'Aleo
Junk Science by Steve Milloy
Galileo Movement
Australian Environment Foundation
Carbon Sense Coalition
Clexit Australia
Mann-Ball on Hockeystick
Tim Ball
Mark Steyn
Donna laFramobise
Judith Curry
Klimarealistene
James Delingpole
Ocean DMI



Edited by bigswede (07/11/17 11:21 AM)
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#302205 - 07/11/17 12:19 PM Re: BRUTAL: Australian Journalist Sums Up Trump's G20 Visit In 2 Minutes [Re: bigswede]
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Since reporter didn't want to give the time of day in not explaining what he meant by 14 words

I have concluded you must be typing about me and yet I have never typed any words which include any phrase "14 words". I had to look it up and found the conservative genius xGov Palin being accused of using Nazi code words. Mt Take is she is too dumb to know what they are and so probably did not know anything she may have said could in any possible situation have meant those code words.

Now as for the other, I will point out the obvious. It is a logical fallacy to appeal to authority, however I will take the opportunity to respond in time about your selections as authorities in the "matter" of global warming.

CO2 Coalition - first ... morons ... and now some facts

Originally Posted By: Jim Marston
The CO2 Coalition bases its main argument on the following: “CO2 is a nutrient that is essential to life. CO2 at current levels and higher enables plants, trees, and crops to grow faster and more efficiently. It is essential for life.”

This is a clear misunderstanding of how chemistry and biology work. Yes, CO2 is essential to life – but not at current levels, and certainly not at higher levels. Magnesium, for example, is an essential mineral for humans too, but too much is toxic.


and you think morons who don't understand science are valuable authorities in the debate.

more to come (Mark Steyn!!!!! ..... give me a frakking break)
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