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#302207 - 07/11/17 12:31 PM Re: BRUTAL: Australian Journalist Sums Up Trump's G20 Visit In 2 Minutes [Re: rporter314]
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Damn you, RP!! You beat me out by 3 minutes!!!!

Here is my comment anyway...

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Bigswede, I think my favorite scientific fact in your magnificent list of definitive and authoritative papers is that CO2 does not cause climate change because it is necessary for plant respiration.
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#302208 - 07/11/17 01:19 PM Re: BRUTAL: Australian Journalist Sums Up Trump's G20 Visit In 2 Minutes [Re: bigswede]
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I followed one of the first sources for a graph in the CO2 Coalition "Primer" on climate change - the graph "showed" that according to UAE data there is no identifiable evidence of anthropogenic warming.

Here is the source: University of East Anglia

UAE does not agree with the CO2 Coalition's interpretation of it's data.

Perhaps you can provide an explanation for this discrepancy, bigswede?
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#302209 - 07/11/17 03:34 PM Re: BRUTAL: Australian Journalist Sums Up Trump's G20 Visit In 2 Minutes [Re: logtroll]
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Originally Posted By: logtroll
I followed one of the first sources for a graph in the CO2 Coalition "Primer" on climate change - the graph "showed" that according to UAE data there is no identifiable evidence of anthropogenic warming.

Here is the source: University of East Anglia

UAE does not agree with the CO2 Coalition's interpretation of it's data.

Perhaps you can provide an explanation for this discrepancy, bigswede?



Well following the above link and we find hard science, like this graph on Global Temprature Record the provided explanation provides some interesting conclusions. I also like this information sheet; Causes of climate change in particular the third paragraph from the bottom on page 4.

Oh Bigswede googleing one of the organizations (International Climate Science Coalition) on your list, I find the Executive Director holds "B. Eng., M. Eng. (Mech., thermofluids)" degrees, how does being an engineer make him an authority on Climate Change?
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#302210 - 07/11/17 04:02 PM Re: BRUTAL: Australian Journalist Sums Up Trump's G20 Visit In 2 Minutes [Re: rporter314]
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Originally Posted By: rporter314
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Since reporter didn't want to give the time of day in not explaining what he meant by 14 words

I have concluded you must be typing about me and yet I have never typed any words which include any phrase "14 words". I had to look it up and found the conservative genius xGov Palin being accused of using Nazi code words. Mt Take is she is too dumb to know what they are and so probably did not know anything she may have said could in any possible situation have meant those code words.

My apologies to you rporter. It was pdx rick (of course) who named the 14 words. I had to look it up too. And no I don't agree with pdx rick that Trump spoke key words to please nazis.

Originally Posted By: rporter314

Now as for the other, I will point out the obvious. It is a logical fallacy to appeal to authority, however I will take the opportunity to respond in time about your selections as authorities in the "matter" of global warming.

No I did not appeal to authority, if I had I would have chosen one to point at. Instead I tried show the plethora of scientists, from a broad variety of disciplines, who oppose the IPCC claim that anthropogenic CO2 will cause catastrophic Global Warming.

Originally Posted By: rporter314

CO2 Coalition - first ... morons ... and now some facts

Originally Posted By: Jim Marston
The CO2 Coalition bases its main argument on the following: “CO2 is a nutrient that is essential to life. CO2 at current levels and higher enables plants, trees, and crops to grow faster and more efficiently. It is essential for life.”

This is a clear misunderstanding of how chemistry and biology work. Yes, CO2 is essential to life – but not at current levels, and certainly not at higher levels. Magnesium, for example, is an essential mineral for humans too, but too much is toxic.


and you think morons who don't understand science are valuable authorities in the debate.

more to come (Mark Steyn!!!!! ..... give me a frakking break)

You just don't seem to get it right, do you? Of course CO2 in the atmosphere is essential to life! This has been known practically since the gas was discovered.
And yes Earths plant life will benefit from a bit more CO2, it already has! The world is greener today than it was 100 years ago. Crops yield more, and not just from technology and fertilizer.
Also it won't be poisonous to us until it hits 3-5 % in the atmosphere. Todays 0.04 % is far far away from that level.
Mark Steyn makes good arguments! Love the guy!
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#302211 - 07/11/17 04:10 PM Re: BRUTAL: Australian Journalist Sums Up Trump's G20 Visit In 2 Minutes [Re: logtroll]
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Originally Posted By: logtroll
I followed one of the first sources for a graph in the CO2 Coalition "Primer" on climate change - the graph "showed" that according to UAE data there is no identifiable evidence of anthropogenic warming.

Here is the source: University of East Anglia

UAE does not agree with the CO2 Coalition's interpretation of it's data.

Perhaps you can provide an explanation for this discrepancy, bigswede?


The Met Office crew at Hadley Centre of University of East Anglia were caught cheating with their datasets graphs. Search the internet for "hide the decline" "hockeystick", "climate gate" and you will screen full of stuff to read about it.

And yes, they are still at it!
https://thsresearch.files.wordpress.com/2017/05/ef-gast-data-research-report-062717.pdf
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#302212 - 07/11/17 05:03 PM Re: BRUTAL: Australian Journalist Sums Up Trump's G20 Visit In 2 Minutes [Re: bigswede]
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Originally Posted By: bigswede
Originally Posted By: rporter314
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Since reporter didn't want to give the time of day in not explaining what he meant by 14 words

I have concluded you must be typing about me and yet I have never typed any words which include any phrase "14 words". I had to look it up and found the conservative genius xGov Palin being accused of using Nazi code words. Mt Take is she is too dumb to know what they are and so probably did not know anything she may have said could in any possible situation have meant those code words.

My apologies to you rporter. It was pdx rick (of course) who named the 14 words. I had to look it up too. And no I don't agree with pdx rick that Trump spoke key words to please nazis.

Is reading comprehension not a forte of yours? You asked what the '14 words' were and I delivered in the reply post.

You seem hung-up on the '14 words' - why is that? Clearly you knew the term '14 words' meant something. I will go out on a limb and spit-ball that you knew that '14 words' were associated with white nationalism, but you were not exactly sure what those '14 words' were.

That Sarah Palin recognized Trump's Alt-Right white nationalism dog-whistle in his Poland speech, speaks volumes.

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#302213 - 07/11/17 06:22 PM Re: BRUTAL: Australian Journalist Sums Up Trump's G20 Visit In 2 Minutes [Re: pdx rick]
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No rick, I was completely clueless on those 14 words. You see I'm not the least bit interested in nationalsozialismus. To me it's just another take on socialism, just like fascism. It's left wing all of it.

I know we are being fed false information, they say it's right wing. But when the government decides who gets to own business, what the business is to produce and at what price, for the greater good of the nation. Then, that is socialism any way you slice it.
If you haven't noticed there is growing awareness on the internet of those corporatist ideologies being left wing.
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#302214 - 07/11/17 06:26 PM Re: BRUTAL: Australian Journalist Sums Up Trump's G20 Visit In 2 Minutes [Re: bigswede]
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Originally Posted By: bigswede
No rick, I was completely clueless on those 14 words. You see I'm not the least bit interested in nationalsozialismus. To me it's just another take on socialism, just like fascism. It's left wing all of it.

White nationalism is an Alt-Right phenomena. Do you see the word "right" there? That means it's on the right-side of the political spectrum.

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#302215 - 07/11/17 06:47 PM Re: BRUTAL: Australian Journalist Sums Up Trump's G20 Visit In 2 Minutes [Re: pdx rick]
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I have not seen any alt-right either, only heard lefties talk about it. Must be a fantasy they have.

There is nothing wrong with being white. Nothing wrong with being proud of your culture. White-bashing is discriminatory and counterproductive.

There, you are so welcome!
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#302216 - 07/11/17 06:51 PM Re: BRUTAL: Australian Journalist Sums Up Trump's G20 Visit In 2 Minutes [Re: bigswede]
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Originally Posted By: bigswede
There is nothing wrong with being white. Nothing wrong with being proud of your culture. White-bashing is discriminatory and counterproductive.

Um...THAT's the very definition of Alt-Right white supremacy.

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