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#302401 - 07/22/17 10:12 PM Fear, Hysteria and Fake News in Homer, Alaska
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Here is:

a transcript of this morning's NPR "This American Life"

about the typically uninformed American hysteria about the immigration "question."
Quote:
Brian Reed
Basically, there's been this huge political fight going on in the town. Everyone's at each other's throats. They're going crazy on social media. They're up in arms. You know, my friend, who's lived there for decades, three decades, says she's never seen the town like this before.

Ira Glass
And what's the issue?

Brian Reed
Well, it started over illegal immigration, which is a weird thing for Homer to be fighting over, because it doesn't really have any immigrants, which makes sense, given where Homer is.

Ira Glass
Yeah, Homer's far.

Brian Reed
Yeah, it's literally the end of the road in America. That's like what they're known as.

Ira Glass
What does that mean?

Brian Reed
All right, so say like you were to drive, like cross over the Canadian border from Washington State, say.

Ira Glass
OK, so I'm in Washington State. I've crossed into Canada.

Brian Reed
Yeah, you're driving north. You're driving for like 2,500 miles, like it's like basically the same length as crossing the US coast to coast. All right, so you go all the way up Canada that way. You cross back into Alaska. Can you picture that?

Ira Glass
Mm-hmm.

Brian Reed
All right, then you got like another 11 hours. You're going to drive on to the peninsula, the Kenai Peninsula. You keep driving. And then it's right on this bay called the Kachemak Bay. And stretching out into the bay is this little strip of land called the spit.

Ira Glass
Mm-hmm.

Brian Reed
That's the end of the road. It's the furthest you can drive in America. And that's Homer.

Ira Glass
What that means, is if you were to cross into the United States from Mexico, this is possibly the least convenient place in America you could end up....

Brian Reed
Are you aware of any undocumented immigrants in Homer?

Woman 1
No.

Brian Reed
Do you have any memory of there being an undocumented immigrant in Homer?

Man 1
No.

Brian Reed
Have you ever heard of an undocumented immigrant in Homer?

Woman 2
No.

Brian Reed
Have you ever heard of an undocumented immigrant being in Homer in your almost 40 years here?

Man 3
No....

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#302407 - 07/23/17 12:58 AM Re: Fear, Hysteria and Fake News in Homer, Alaska [Re: matthew]
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the same with Sharia
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#302408 - 07/23/17 01:09 AM Re: Fear, Hysteria and Fake News in Homer, Alaska [Re: matthew]
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"Fear is the mind-killer." to quote Frank Herbert

It makes it impossible for us to think rationally. The demagogues use it to manipulate masses of people to whatever they like.

All I can say, is if you let fear rule you then you are a coward and a weakling. Fear is the most useless response to anything. We're all going to get old and die anyway. That is the inevitable fate of every man, woman, and child. Might as well live like a lion.

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#302413 - 07/23/17 11:59 AM Re: Fear, Hysteria and Fake News in Homer, Alaska [Re: matthew]
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This is great journalism. It highlights that absolute disconnect between realty and perception, and how it can be manipulated to reach an end.
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#302414 - 07/23/17 12:49 PM Re: Fear, Hysteria and Fake News in Homer, Alaska [Re: matthew]
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#302415 - 07/23/17 02:19 PM Re: Fear, Hysteria and Fake News in Homer, Alaska [Re: matthew]
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Fear is not the mind killer for conservatives. It is the tool to manipulate the ignorant masses. The ignorant live in uneasy undefinable fear. It just takes someone to tell them who or what to blame for their fear.


Edited by rporter314 (07/23/17 02:20 PM)
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#302417 - 07/23/17 08:19 PM Re: Fear, Hysteria and Fake News in Homer, Alaska [Re: matthew]
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Conservatives Big on Fear, Brain Study Finds
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#302420 - 07/23/17 09:38 PM Re: Fear, Hysteria and Fake News in Homer, Alaska [Re: rporter314]
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Quote:
Fear is not the mind killer for conservatives. It is the tool to manipulate the ignorant masses.


Which brings up a very interesting point: Are the people doing the manipulation or their victims the true Republicans? Sure, they all vote for Republican candidates, but some of them are "in on the joke" and don't actually believe all the BS used to manipulate the rubes. So would you say the Koch brothers are the real Republicans or are the trailer park residents who voted for Trump?

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*Note: I live in a trailer myself: It's a manufactured home, but it did arrive on wheels. Of course it's on a 10 acre ranch, not in a park, but I once DID live in a trailer park. I was VERY poor as a young man.

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