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#302416 - 07/23/17 03:52 PM Nero, the Execution of Peter and Paul, and the Biggest Fake News in Early Christ
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Nero, the Execution of Peter and Paul, and the Biggest Fake News in Early Christian History

Candida Moss
The Daily Beast
July 23, 2017

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Christian tradition maintains that after Rome nearly burned to the ground, Nero engaged in a brutal crackdown on Christians which led to the executions of Peter and Paul.

On the evening of July 18, in the scorching summer of 64 CE, a fire started in a shop under the Circus Maximus in Rome. The fire quickly spread to nearby homes and businesses and the Circus itself. The fire burned for six days, ravaging the city. It left only four of Rome’s fourteen quarters untouched.

The reigning emperor, Nero, a man known for his cruelty and love of theater, scapegoated the Christians for the disaster. According to tradition and later historians, as a punishment, Nero devised grotesque executions for the Christians: he covered them in animal skins and had them torn apart by dogs, and he doused them in tar and used them as human torches to light the night sky for his dinner parties. It was in the wake of the fire, Christian tradition maintains, that the most important Apostles–St Peter and St Paul–were arrested and executed. But while the fire of Rome was a devastating historical reality, did Nero actually target Christians as a result?

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#302418 - 07/23/17 09:24 PM Re: Nero, the Execution of Peter and Paul, and the Biggest Fake News in Early Christ [Re: Golem]
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Like most things in the Christian traditions: Fabricated long after the actual events for political purposes. Among other things, I think this is why the Gospel of Thomas is much more informative if you are interested in the real Jesus, without the centuries of corruption layered upon him by the influence of Rome.

Thomas headed east after Jesus died and his school of thought developed in what we call Syria today, well outside of the Greek and Roman schools. Funny thing: His gospel is all things Jesus said, and he never claimed divinity!

We have the entire Gospel because a very early copy was found in Egypt. There are some parallels with the other Gospels, and in fact some biblical scholars claim the The Gospel of John is a point-by-point refutation of the Gospel of Thomas! The authors of the other Gospels almost surely know this work BEFORE writing their own version, and church of Rome authorities made sure it was demonized and banned by 340 AD.

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#302436 - 07/24/17 06:46 PM Re: Nero, the Execution of Peter and Paul, and the Biggest Fake News in Early Christ [Re: Golem]
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It has been clear for millennia that much of the Bible is "fake news" - that is, it was never intended to be literal, and much of it was cobbled together from other sources to tell a "story". The biggest editorial endeavor was the Council of Nicaea, which occurred hundreds of years after Jesus lived.
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