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#302576 - 08/05/17 04:31 PM Re: Bernie 2020 [Re: chunkstyle]
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All spilt milk under the bridge at this point. I think Sanders or Clinton would have made truly great presidents.

Instead we got this abomination.
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#302586 - 08/05/17 09:59 PM Re: Bernie 2020 [Re: pdx rick]
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Probably better than Obama. He spent way too much energy on being higher class than all of his critics, which resulted in not much getting done. For example, when they stole his Supreme Court nomination anybody else would have done something punitive. Obama was too noble to do that.

Clinton certainly would have made McConnell suffer for that.

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#302587 - 08/06/17 04:31 AM Re: Bernie 2020 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Obama was too noble

Not something that will ever be said of the current occupant.
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Clinton certainly would have made McConnell suffer

I was truly looking forward to seeing her kick ass and take names.
Even the irascible Mr. Sanders would have been really fun to watch.

This guy, whom I prefer not even to name, is no fun at all.
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#302589 - 08/06/17 01:55 PM Re: Bernie 2020 [Re: Greger]
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The thing is, when that slightly disheveled, stern faced old man walk down to a sparsly attended and bemused gathering of press reporters to announce his candidacy he was largely written off by the mainstream as nothing more than entertainment and a foil for the HRC campaign.
Then he made his case to the american people and bemusement turned to panic. He went where current DNC does not go but used to occupy. The results of his message speak for themselves.
Alternatively, HRC ran a top down, micro targeted, reduction strategy well funded by the corporations and nearly had her head handed to her.
Theresa May called for an election to further consolidate her conservative majority and faced a similar Sanders style challenge and nearly got slaughtered as a result of his hard left campaign.
Sanders said it: 'Democrats business as usual isn't working!'
Sadly, Hillary inc. and her supporters think it would have it not for (fill in the blank)...
The Democratic Party needs to recognize this fact, admit it has wandered to far from its roots and try something new.

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#302593 - 08/06/17 05:39 PM Re: Bernie 2020 [Re: chunkstyle]
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Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
I think it's time to ask if it wouldn't have been better for the DNC to have gotten behind the Sanders camp in hindsight?

That wouldn't have ever happened, because the head of the DNC at the time, Debbie Wasserman-Schultz felt is was Clinton's turn to be President. Hmm

Yes, HClinton was the most experienced and the most qualified, but she was also very unlikable - as was Donald J Trump.

So the RNC and the DNC thought it a good idea to force voters to chose between two unlikable candidates. mad

As an aside. In college I worked for the Cheesecake Factory. I opened their fourth store in Canoga Park, CA. At our first training meeting, we were told why we were hired: We had 10 second likeablity (Meaning, the hiring folks liked us within 10 sec of the interview and it was management's position that the guests would too. )


Likability of the candidate absolutely needs to be a criteria for the DNC in nominating a candidate in the future. smile
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#302594 - 08/06/17 05:43 PM Re: Bernie 2020 [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
All spilt milk under the bridge at this point.

Not for all of us. Some are us are still holding a grudge. cry
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#302595 - 08/06/17 05:44 PM Re: Bernie 2020 [Re: Greger]
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Clinton certainly would have made McConnell suffer

HClinton certainly would have made Putin suffer and that's why he got involved in the November 2016 election.
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