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#302598 - 08/06/17 08:10 PM Round Table for August 2017
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Round Table for August 2017

THIS particular August 2017 Round Table begins on this day, August 6, 2017.
At 8:16 a.m. Japanese time, an American B-29 bomber, the Enola Gay, dropped the world’s first atomic weapon over the city of Hiroshima. 80,000 people were killed instantly, and another 35,000 were injured. At least another 60,000 would be dead by the end of the year from the effects of the fallout.



On this day, in 1991, Peugeot sent notice to its franchisees that it was withdrawing from the American car market, citing decreasing US sales.



On this day in 1902, Arthur Flegenheimer is born in the Bronx.
Thirty-three years later, his life came to a violent and bloody conclusion when he was shot down in the men’s room of the Palace Chophouse in Newark, New Jersey.
You might know him as Dutch Schultz.




Lucille Ball was also born on this day in Jamestown, New York.
She would become the most powerful woman in Hollywood.



That was fortunate for TWO men, Desi Arnaz and Gene Roddenberry.























For residents of Tulsa Oklahoma, the fall tornado season got an early start, or maybe the spring tornado season never really ended.

25 were hurt and hundreds more dig out of the rubble in Tulsa, OK.
But that wouldn't have anything to do with "climate change", which is thought to be a hoax by many in the region. wink






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#302602 - 08/06/17 09:36 PM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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The world's first atomic bomb was set off in Alamogordo, New Mexico on June 16th, 1945. Hiroshima was the second, or the first actually used as a weapon.

The interesting thing about the Hiroshima bomb is that it was the very first uranium bomb ever detonated. That technology had never been tested. The New Mexico and Nagasaki bombs were both plutonium and similar design, so they were pretty sure their weapon would work. And it did, with a yield about 33% higher than Hiroshima.

They were also radically different designs. The uranium bomb was a gun-type where a uranium "slug" was fired into a uranium target. The plutonium bombs were slices of a sphere that were driven together by explosives. (Higher yields are a product of how long you can keep the critical mass together. So "bigger" bombs don't need to use more fissile material, they just need better design and more conventional trigger explosives.)

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#302604 - 08/06/17 11:32 PM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
The world's first atomic bomb was set off in Alamogordo, New Mexico on June 16th, 1945. Hiroshima was the second, or the first actually used as a weapon.


Ahhh the devil is in the details.
Atomic bomb or atomic weapon...in the case of Hiroshima, I'll edit to say "weapon".
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#302605 - 08/07/17 12:29 AM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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The Trinity Site explosion was a device (does fit the definition of a bomb) it was not dropped from a airplane. It was tower mounted and to big to load on a plane. So in the common usage sense Hiroshima was the first atomic bomb, dropped from a airplane.

Trinity Site is about 50 miles northwest of Alamogordo and is actually located in the middle (with the 50 mile extension (US 380 north to US 60) when needed) of the White Sands Missile Range. History. I was stationed there in 74 - 76


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#302606 - 08/07/17 01:23 AM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Ujest Shurly]
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Until we return again to Tat’s dear site. The site of the Tsar Bomba. That was when men were men--not just mein:

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#302607 - 08/07/17 04:15 AM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Ujest Shurly]
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A bomb does not have to be dropped from an airplane. Lots of terrorists use bombs, almost zero of those dropped from an airplane. To make a bomb you need a confined explosion that bursts it's containment. A cherry bomb qualifies, as does the Trinity gadget. Chernobyl does not.

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#302609 - 08/07/17 05:40 AM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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With Nukes you can have a dandy criticallity without any containment. A flash of blue light, and the blue light special make all in range well done.It nearly happened again in federal nuclear weapons arsenal lab. The lab has been closed since 2013 because they cant replace the nuclear scientists that walked off the job do to shoddy and very dangerous safety issues.


Nuclear negligence


This is a very scary series of 6 reports the detail the condition that led to the scenario where essentially all the nuke scientists walked off the job, when pushed to safety violations by the private contractors who wanted to make quota.

We may be our own worst nuclear threat!
Some things go poorly when privatized!
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#302610 - 08/07/17 08:32 AM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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That happened in a plutonium recycling plant in Japan, too. Workers were behind schedule so they doubled the quantity of stuff in a bucket. Unfortunately, the amount to put in the bucket was calculated so no critical mass could exist. Apparently this was not explained to the lowly factory workers. They set off a sustained fission reaction, spattered the whole room and themselves with radioactive stuff, and fried themselves with lethal radiation.

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#302612 - 08/07/17 09:52 AM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: TatumAH]
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Originally Posted By: TatumAH

There's something going-on with the Hanford plant in WA State as well. The walls and ceilings of the caves keep caving-in. gobsmacked , tinfoilhat
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#302613 - 08/07/17 04:13 PM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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We went into the nuclear age with only a modicum of understanding of the implications and second and third order effects. The clean up will take more than all of our lifetimes (and half-lifetimes). Untoward effects are inevitable.
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#302616 - 08/07/17 06:08 PM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Tat and PIA are talking about scenarios that I remember hearing about as a kid.
My father's specialty was weapons effects.
He died in 1986, and it took four scientists to replace him, but apparently they didn't quite fill his shoes.
The scenarios being talked about above are what kept him up at night.


Pentagon Plans to Hunt Data on GIs in A-Tests - WaPo 1978

If we're going to touch on the issue of unqualified workers at nuke plants, let's also include people who are downright dangerous.
David Grisham, a self-ordained "pastor" and head of an end times scenario fundamentalist Christian hate group called "Repent Amarillo" was head of security at the PANTEX nuclear weapons assembly plant in Amarillo Texas until he was finally FIRED in May, 2011.

Here he is last year harassing kids in his own personal war on Christmas.


Here he is harassing people attending a private swingers night club.


At one time his "Army of God" (translates literally to "Hezbollah") engaged in a "spiritual warfare map", but I am having difficulty tracking an image of that down, as he scrubbed it from his old site before losing the domain altogether.

ThinkProgress LINK

Head of security at a nuke plant, end times scenario pastor, yeah...it was that crazy ten years ago...2007, when he still had that job.
PANTEX is the largest nuclear weapons assembly plant in the country.

At the time of "Pastor" Grisham's employment, it was being operated by Babcock & Wilcox, designers of the Three Mile Island nuclear power plant. They began operating PANTEX immediately after emerging from bankruptcy in 2000 and ran the plant until 2014.
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#302617 - 08/07/17 08:20 PM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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That's not just your run-of-the-mill nuclear power plant. That's a nuclear weapons assembly plant! Talk about "not in my backyard". They actually make the sub-critical chunks of plutonium and uranium that WILL make a fission reaction if brought together. That must be very exacting work, to make sure you never accidentally reach critical mass.

For example, you would have to empty the shavings bin after machining each chunk to insure not too many shavings get together. Not to mention that you have to do that work by remote control or in a full bunny suit because breathing ANY plutonium dust is a death sentence.

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#302619 - 08/07/17 09:49 PM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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You mean Santa isn't real...??
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#302621 - 08/08/17 01:34 AM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
That's not just your run-of-the-mill nuclear power plant. That's a nuclear weapons assembly plant! Talk about "not in my backyard". They actually make the sub-critical chunks of plutonium and uranium that WILL make a fission reaction if brought together. That must be very exacting work, to make sure you never accidentally reach critical mass.

For example, you would have to empty the shavings bin after machining each chunk to insure not too many shavings get together. Not to mention that you have to do that work by remote control or in a full bunny suit because breathing ANY plutonium dust is a death sentence.


And not have any heads of security surreptitiously scooping up stray bits of fissionable material in order to create his own version of The Rapture.
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#302622 - 08/08/17 02:35 AM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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The only good thing about it that tiny bits of scrap fissionable material are deadly, so unlikely security guards would steal it. It is also weighed very carefully at every production stage so every little scrap is accounted for.

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#302623 - 08/08/17 03:04 PM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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You've enlightened me but all I can say is, having a nimrod like that "pastor" as head of security at PANTEX gave me a bad case of the heebie-jeebies, because you just never know what a nutjob like that will get in his head to try doing.
He might get up, make breakfast and see patterns on his toast that look like
Bay Bay Jeebus telling him today is the day the world must end.
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#302660 - 08/12/17 10:12 PM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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I wonder what Trump and Putin are dong on vacation this summer? Hmm



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#302661 - 08/13/17 12:05 AM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: pdx rick]
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Ahhhh! Za Ameriskanski ees not so bhad after all.
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#302688 - 08/14/17 08:17 AM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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#302723 - 08/16/17 10:39 AM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Holy crap! We've had the cure for Alzheimer's Disease since 2006 but the DEA ignores the research:

https://www.scripps.edu/news/press/2006/080906.html

The Scripps Researcg Institute is one of the most respected pure biomedical research centers in the country.

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#302724 - 08/16/17 02:05 PM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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You don't know what you don't know.
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#302737 - 08/17/17 06:32 AM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Salk Institute has had a research proposal in at the DEA for months because of some very promising preliminary work with THC from legal lab standard solution they used on brain cells. They want to get some legal THC to try on mice but the DEA just Catch-22s it by saying it has to stay on the Schedule I list because there is no proven medical use. Salk can't proceed because they get federal funding for lots of projects, even though they could go down to the corner dispensary and get all they need for about $15!

It is classical circular logic. I think the only way to fix this is for Congress to act. They need to pass a law with a veto-proof majority that lowers it to Schedule II. Or at least direct the DEA to approve every research request for medical marijuana.

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#302746 - 08/17/17 10:26 PM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Well, you can't know it works if you don't let anyone test it.
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#302751 - 08/18/17 01:31 AM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Exactly their intent. They have their fingers stuck in their ears and are shouting: "Na, na na, na, na" as loud as they can.

On the other hand there is LOADS of evidence that medical marijuana helps some people. It is all anecdotal instead of double-blind scientific studies, but when even one child has 30 seizures a day every day despite modern medicine, then uses cannabis extracts and has 0 or 1 seizure per day for months on end, that is proof that it does have a medical use. When researchers find and elucidate the cannabidiol path we all have in our brains, that should be proof that we need to learn more about that path by approving studies at legitimate research institutes and universities.

Now that so many states have approved medical marijuana, scientists could actually do longitudinal studies on people with various conditions and publish the findings. Doesn't require any DEA approval if they don't supply the pot! And no funding by drug companies that are not interested in a substance anybody can grow for free in their backyard.

For example, looking at all MS victims do the pot users have less severe symptoms than the non-users? Have chronic pain victims used less opiates by replacing them with marijuana? How many long-term pot smokers developed Alzheimer's Disease compared to non-smokers? Some of the answers could knock the medical/pharmaceutical/DEA complex on it's ass and maybe win a Nobel prize, if they pan out.

This thing has happened before: High doses of Vitamin D are just as effective at preventing MS episodes as any of the current MS drugs (which all cost $60,000 - $90,000 per year).

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#302756 - 08/18/17 08:32 AM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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#302812 - 08/21/17 01:35 AM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Well...well...well...what have we here?

Brietibart uses Confederate Flag as logo on its inside pages.

Main page logo:



Inside page logo



Cowards don't even have the courage to use it's racist and bigoted southern dog whistle logo on its main page.
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#302813 - 08/21/17 01:52 AM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Disregard the above post. It's the Union Jack. Clearly I'm not familiar enough with Confederate Flags. Someone pointed out that the Confederate flag has a big X on it - signifies X for losers.
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#302814 - 08/21/17 02:11 AM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Donald J Trump's Hollywood Walk of Fame Star:

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#302820 - 08/21/17 02:41 PM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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#302823 - 08/21/17 07:02 PM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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So FLAT EARTHERS, before you dive under the covers, is the Moon also a flat disc, or is Earth unique in that regard?
Was the total eclipse a Hollywood studio special effect, or was it staged by Obama?
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#302828 - 08/21/17 11:10 PM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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It's all really 2-D. We all live in Flatland and we are dreaming of a third dimension.

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#302875 - 08/26/17 12:56 AM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Looks like Hurricane Harvey is about to rip Texas a new ahole. 133 MPH sustained winds and it's pretty damn big. It is 10 miles offshore right now. In about an hour it will come ashore in a pretty unpopulated area east of Corpus Christi, but they are predicting in will loop around back out to sea and get charged up again for a run at Houston.

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#302878 - 08/26/17 03:40 AM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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To my Texas friends, stay safe. Harvey looks very devastating. I hope the predictions are overblown.
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#302881 - 08/26/17 05:54 AM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Vegas oddsmakers, if Rupert Murdoch kicks the bucket before Christmas, what are the odds that Sinclair Broadcast Group buys Fox News Channel (News Corporation) before the 2018 elections?
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#302883 - 08/26/17 06:40 AM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Quote:
I hope the predictions are overblown.

OK--that was both good--and very bad....
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#302886 - 08/27/17 04:50 AM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Trump pardoned Joe Arpaio, so he never has to pay for his many crimes personally. His decisions as sheriff may have injured thousands of people and even killed some, but all the many lawsuits were against the county. They paid out millions of dollars to his victims, but he never had to pay a cent or serve a day in jail.

What about the families of people his decisions killed? I wonder if just one of them will take some of their lawsuit money and take out a hit on him. I sure wouldn't want to be Joe Arpaio these days. I can see it coming from a mile away.

Wikipedia has a very nice article on him and all of his MANY crimes. I can see why Trump would admire him after reading it! Among many other things, his department practically made child rape legal in his county.

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#302889 - 08/27/17 05:16 PM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Trump pardoned Arpaio to send a signal that he can pardon anyone who stays loyal to him... hint, hint, Manafort, Flynn, Jared... the 25th amendment looms large... it is the quickest way to remove Trump from office before he can pardon his way out of the Russia scandal, and serves the secondary purpose of giving him a defense (diminished capacity) in his subsequent trials.

Yes, I believe it is really coming to this. We all knew Trump was unsuited (incompetent and uninterested) to be President, but Republican leaders felt he could be corralled once in office to pursue their agenda (the infamous "pivot"). They believed that the executive branch could be run without an effective President - they did it with Reagan and Bush - but they didn't count on his towering ego and gross ignorance of basics. Mental illness has not been a roadblock before (Wilson, Reagan, Nixon)... but Trump is just too far gone to hide it.
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#302890 - 08/27/17 05:27 PM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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#302891 - 08/27/17 11:15 PM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Harvey update from my house

26" of rain as of 6pm CST 27 Aug

A break in rain bands .... expecting more tonight
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#302892 - 08/27/17 11:35 PM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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I actually wonder if there will be anything left of Houston.
This hurricane is doing to Houston Metro what an 8.5 quake would do to Los Angeles.
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#302893 - 08/27/17 11:55 PM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Just a while lot of water so far in Houston. It's going to be Wednesday before the eye goes by rporter's house. It hasn't made it back to the gulf to get charged up again. Still looping around north east of Corpus Christi as a tropical storm.

I don't think it will be much stronger by the time it gets up to Highlands, but when it comes ashore again it could do some new wind damage. It is strange how it's just looping around and hardly moving. That's what they predicted and that's what it is doing.

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#302907 - 08/29/17 08:40 PM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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How you doing Rporter? I thought you should be safe in a place named "Highlands" but I see it is about 40 feet lower than Houston! Are you up to your neck yet?

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#302923 - 08/31/17 03:37 AM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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What fresh Hell is this?
It's ALL of the FIRE ANTS in the Houston area, assembled as a massive flotilla of DEATH on the river, after the floodwaters drove them from their underground nests.

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#302924 - 08/31/17 03:42 AM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Perfect opportunity to go out with a backpack sprayer loaded with some insecticide. Chance to get thousands of queens and millions of workers, before they get to dry land. Just don't wade into it, and wear some waders you can spray with the bug juice.

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#302925 - 08/31/17 03:47 AM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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King County Sheriff (WA) pulls a motorcyclist over in a very odd manner:

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#302926 - 08/31/17 03:48 AM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
What fresh Hell is this?
It's ALL of the FIRE ANTS in the Houston area, assembled as a massive flotilla of DEATH on the river, after the floodwaters drove them from their underground nests.


Nasty! gobsmacked
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#302942 - 08/31/17 11:54 PM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: pdx rick]
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No citation in that motorcycle stop? That is especially weird. Did the Sheriff see the motorcycle from a side street but not actually clock him?

He certainly is throwing around a lot of charges to then not bother to write a citation. Or maybe he did not have a citation pad with him in the car?

He really needs some training. You approach with your badge out, not your gun drawn and no badge. That's a good way to get killed.

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#302956 - 09/02/17 03:59 PM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
No citation in that motorcycle stop? That is especially weird. Did the Sheriff see the motorcycle from a side street but not actually clock him?

He certainly is throwing around a lot of charges to then not bother to write a citation. Or maybe he did not have a citation pad with him in the car?

He really needs some training. You approach with your badge out, not your gun drawn and no badge. That's a good way to get killed.

Exactly. At first, I thought the guy was being robbed and his GoPro camera caught it all on the video feed. Plus the way the cop was holding his gun, close to his side was weird.
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#302960 - 09/02/17 11:48 PM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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How you doing Rporter?


Toxic Waste Site in Houston Area

Well, all that flood water might just wash out all the sulfuric acid!

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#302975 - 09/04/17 06:20 AM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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So I've checking out an urban millennial site lately. Today I interacted with a lot with the commenters. I'd say more than half were pro-Trump. I just can't wrap my head around that. Are there really "Russian bot" trolls? The site just made no sense.

One supposed black female, millennial, was singing the praises of white people and how white people are to be worshipped basically for bringing African-Americans from Africa because they have better lives now.

I was all: WTF? Hmm
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#302978 - 09/04/17 10:49 AM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: pdx rick]
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So I've checking out an urban millennial site lately. Today I interacted with a lot with the commenters. I'd say more than half were pro-Trump. I just can't wrap my head around that. Are there really "Russian bot" trolls? The site just made no sense.

One supposed black female, millennial, was singing the praises of white people and how white people are to be worshipped basically for bringing African-Americans from Africa because they have better lives now.

I was all: WTF? Hmm


Clueless!
Definitely your best post yet, Rick!
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#302988 - 09/05/17 12:40 AM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: pdx rick]
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white people are to be worshipped basically for bringing African-Americans from Africa because they have better lives now


I think lots of people think Africans are much better off here because of things White people told Africans about Africa. They DO write all the textbooks, run the schools, own the media, etc.

African tribesmen were masters of the technology they had, and some still are. Zulu young men hunt lions with sharp sticks and WIN! Pygmys hunt and eat wild elephants, for God's sake. Pygmy women can build a new hut in about 10 minutes, and know 3000-some wild plants and what they are good for in all their life stages.

Plopped down in Central Africa you would be dead in days unless you were lucky enough to find a native tribe that took you in.

Sure, being free and Black in America today is a lot better than being chained to a bench in the hold of a slaver. It's better than generation after generation of families being ripped apart, women raped, men lynched and castrated, and so on. But I'm not so sure white people deserve thanks.

Let's wait until Blacks have spent more years here free than as slaves and revisit this idea. That will happen in 2111.

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#302989 - 09/05/17 01:58 AM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Because DACA was a hot topic this weekend, a lot of CONservatives were pushing a narrative on that site that there are no Mexican or Black American scientists or inventors. I knew prior to this weekend that there are Black American scientists and inventors, but wasn't sure about Mexican ones. There are. Google had a bunch.

What motivation would CONservatives have to state such things when it's easily fact-checked? Hmm

One guy I was talking to yesterday, supposedly African American given his avatar was supposedly him, said that Trump isn't a racist. I cited the 1970s Justice Department lawsuit which Trump and his father settled where managers of their apartment buildings would write the letter "C" on the applications for "colored" to deny the applicants.

The guy said: Yeah...everything on the internet is true.

Trump has made a big deal of suggesting to people that facts are not true. Is this an example of someone buying into Trump's words? Hmm

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#302990 - 09/05/17 02:00 AM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: bigswede]
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Originally Posted By: pdx rick


So I've checking out an urban millennial site lately. Today I interacted with a lot with the commenters. I'd say more than half were pro-Trump. I just can't wrap my head around that. Are there really "Russian bot" trolls? The site just made no sense.

One supposed black female, millennial, was singing the praises of white people and how white people are to be worshipped basically for bringing African-Americans from Africa because they have better lives now.

I was all: WTF? Hmm


Clueless!
Definitely your best post yet, Rick!

I attributed that poster to being a "false-flag" account. Hmm I see that happening a lot in the comments sections these days - which is why I asked about this "Russian bot" phenomena and if it's real.
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#302992 - 09/05/17 05:22 AM Re: Round Table for August 2017 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Hey guys, come on over to September
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