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#302740 - 08/17/17 03:47 PM Re: Charolottesville [Re: pdx rick]
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#302741 - 08/17/17 04:26 PM Re: Charolottesville [Re: chunkstyle]
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Trump mini-me, Maine Governor LePage, spoke in support of Trump's call for stopping the removal of confederate monuments, and this fell out of his pie hole:

“This is what our history is," he said, in an appearance on Portland radio station WGAN. "And it’s just, to me, it’s just like going to New York City right now and taking down the monument of those that perished in the 9/11 [sic]. It will come to that.”

I guess the interviewer didn't think to ask exactly how removing confederate monuments is "just like" removing the 9/11 monument. Perhaps I'm slow witted, but I don't see the similarity. Except for a few words in common in the sentences like "taking down" and "monument."

Wonder how many confederate monuments Maine has. I'm guessing close to zero. Maybe LePage can pick up a few of the unwanted confederate monuments ... really cheap, if he drives down and gets them.
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#302742 - 08/17/17 05:34 PM Re: Charolottesville [Re: pdx rick]
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Ironic that Page governs from a state that you could make the argument for having saved the union. It was the 20th Regiment from Maine that held the Union army's left flank down to the last bullet in the battle of Little Round Top on the second day of the battle of Gettysburg. Exhausting all their ammo and bracing for another push from the confederate Alabamians, Col. Joshua Chamberlain ordered a bayonet charge (almost never used in the war) into the approaching confederates. THeyr'e surprise led to a full scale retreat and saved the Union from a possible defeat.
Page dishonors the service and sacrifice Maine has made for our country.
Problems is does the people of Maine know it?


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#302745 - 08/17/17 10:22 PM Re: Charolottesville [Re: chunkstyle]
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"And it’s just, to me, it’s just like going to New York City right now and taking down the monument of those that perished in the 9/11 sick.." Well, yeah, If Al Qaeda had put up a monument to the terrorists who crashed the planes! What a sick moron and sorry excuse for an alleged human being.
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#302747 - 08/17/17 11:04 PM Re: Charolottesville [Re: NW Ponderer]
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What a sick moron and sorry excuse for an alleged human being.


And yet Donald Trumps fans still love him as much as ever for “sticking to his guns”. What does that say about those resolute 35%? They love the fact that he shows total resolve and continues to assuage the neo-fascists that they relate to.

Complete with four star general Pershing’s “swine blood dipped bullets”.

The fact is, except for a very few brave Republican voices, almost all of them are aboard the “Trump Train.” And likely will continue to remain so. So from all appearances Mr. Trump shall remain as Commander in Chief for the foreseeable future.

And possibly even be re-elected!
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#302750 - 08/18/17 01:00 AM Re: Charolottesville [Re: pondering_it_all]
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And I see that GoDaddy, Cloudflare, Google, Facebook, etc. have all decided Nazis deserve the death penalty.

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#302753 - 08/18/17 04:10 AM Re: Charolottesville [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: pdx rick

Antifa = Anti Fascism



That's like saying if you like British music, you must be a fan of the Sex Pistols.
I GET that if you are against fascism, you are "anti-fascist".
I also even get the fact that if you ask any five Anti-Fa members what they are FOR, you get five different answers.
Ahhhh yes, it's the old "leaderless movement" thing again, remember Occupy?

I am so sick of hearing the term "leaderless movement".
There is NO SUCH THING as a leaderless movement,
If you intend for a movement to produce useful change that actually holds up, to scrutiny, to stress, to the ravages of time, you HAVE to have FOCUS and you HAVE to have LEADERSHIP.
This has been true since the dawn of recorded history.
Sheep are leaderless movements, lemmings are leaderless movements, plankton is a leaderless movement, krill are leaderless movements.

So just because I am anti fascism does NOT MEAN I am "Anti-Fa"...subtle difference but a difference worth noting.
I don't DO "leaderless movements".
I want my movements to have leaders and a clear and concise set of ideas.

I am sure that if I look I could find plenty of good, decent people with big hearts in the Anti-Fa movement.
I am sure that if I look hard enough I can find something Trump did that I like.

Sorry not sorry, I still want MY movements to have focus, clarity and A LEADER or leadership council, and a mission statement.


Edited by Jeffery J. Haas (08/18/17 04:13 AM)
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#302754 - 08/18/17 04:16 AM Re: Charolottesville [Re: pdx rick]
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Oh looky, it's one of those "beautiful Confederate monuments" that Trump thinks we should preserve!!

Is This The Nation’s Nastiest Monument?




Edited by Jeffery J. Haas (08/18/17 04:35 AM)
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#302755 - 08/18/17 04:42 AM Re: Charolottesville [Re: Ken Condon]
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Originally Posted By: Ken Condon

Complete with four star general Pershing’s “swine blood dipped bullets”.


Which never actually happened tinfoilhat

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#302759 - 08/18/17 01:40 PM Re: Charolottesville [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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I wonder if Trump knows that white supremacists were invited to Charlottesville to "Unite the Right," not to "Save the Confederate Statues."


Edited by Spag-hetti (08/18/17 01:41 PM)
Edit Reason: comma added
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