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#303025 - 09/07/17 01:20 AM Re: Round Table For September 2017 [Re: Greger]
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Maybe you should get a raft together, just in case. I see some predictions put Irma right up the middle of the state and it's wider than the state.

The big problem with floods (well, other than drowning) is the water supply is gone. Everything depends on electricity, so when that goes out there are no pumps working. You can live a long time without food, but one day without water is serious. And all the flood water contains sewage. Throw some water jugs in the raft.

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#303033 - 09/07/17 11:18 AM Re: Round Table For September 2017 [Re: Greger]
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#303035 - 09/07/17 05:12 PM Re: Round Table For September 2017 [Re: Greger]
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#303041 - 09/08/17 03:00 AM Re: Round Table For September 2017 [Re: Greger]
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Say, Greger, aren't you located in the vicinity of the intersection of Wet Wind & Completely fvcked? Hmm
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#303042 - 09/08/17 03:50 AM Re: Round Table For September 2017 [Re: pdx rick]
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No, I'm dead in the middle of completely fvcked. Near Orlando.
Shouldn't really be too bad here, I'm nowhere near the coast.
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#303048 - 09/08/17 06:12 PM Re: Round Table For September 2017 [Re: Greger]
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Except Irma is huge. I just saw a composite image and Irma is twice the diameter of Andrew. If she really comes straight up the middle of the state, the wind probably won't be too bad if you board up or put up some shutters. But the potential for flooding is very high. Maybe not "above the roof" high, but certainly "water in your house" high.

I was reading about the relative energy of stuff the other day and something like 99% of the energy of hurricanes is used to lift water (which come down as rain) and only 1% is in the winds.

At least make sure you have a ladder well-secured so you can get up on the roof when the storm passes.

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#303054 - 09/08/17 08:58 PM Re: Round Table For September 2017 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Highest I've seen the water here in 35 years was 16 inches below my floor. I have an untested theory that, because the land is so flat, The water will spread out rather than rise much higher.
I live on the edge of the Green Swamp, 800 square miles of sparsely populated swampland. But it's a "high" swamp that drains out into five major rivers and a few small creeks like the one I live on. Water doesn't collect here but it can stack up a little on its way out.
I will likely be trapped out here for a few days without power or water after the storm, I've got a well so, like you mentioned...no power, no water. There's three miles of unpaved road to get out of here that will likely be flooded or blocked by fallen trees. It aint my first hurricane and likely won't be my last. It may well be my worst, but I know what I'm in for. It's gonna be ugly. Everything that will hold water will be filled tomorrow.
Rural areas like this are the last places they restore power to, so I'm in it for the long haul. I've got a generator, lots of food and...

Jeez it's gonna be ugly. But not life threatening.
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#303055 - 09/08/17 10:37 PM Re: Round Table For September 2017 [Re: Greger]
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I've got a 4x4 truck with a winch, a generator, and more than one chainsaw, and my place is only on the edge of the suburbs. Hurricanes are just tropical depressions by the time they get up here and we are up on a hill, so all we have to worry about is humidity.

Wild fire season is coming, though.

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#303067 - 09/10/17 01:13 PM Re: Round Table For September 2017 [Re: Greger]
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This is just sad. A group of Jacksonville, FL residents gather at the beach to pray hurricane Irma away.
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#303068 - 09/10/17 05:21 PM Re: Round Table For September 2017 [Re: Greger]
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Serious question:

Any ideas of what would have happened in a nuclear bomb was dropped in the middle of Irma's eye while at sea? Hmm
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