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#303121 - 09/16/17 02:02 AM Re: Round Table For September 2017 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Some towns are flat, some are hilly. most have lots of lakes the storm water runs into. My county, aptly named Lake County, has over 1000 lakes that cover about 200 square miles. Water and storms aren't a new thing here so all towns have adequate storm drainage and water retention ponds to deal with all but the heaviest rainfall. The coastal areas are all pretty flat and they've got storm surge to deal with during a hurricane. That's where the flooding takes place here, it's not generally a problem further inland unless you live on one of the many rivers and streams that might overflow their banks like the one in my back yard. Really, flooding is seldom an issue here.
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#303122 - 09/16/17 02:26 PM Re: Round Table For September 2017 [Re: Greger]
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Years ago I represented the military department of the state, which included the emergency management division. I had access to the planning/assessment program which had overlays of the various natural disaster threats facing the state. Out of curiosity, I put my address in and applied the overlays one by one: flood, wind, Pyroclastic flow from Mount Rainier, earthquakes... it turns out, mine is literally the safest house in the neighborhood... and the city! It was the only one not affected by any of the overlays. A single white spot in a sea of colors. Ironic, no?
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#303123 - 09/16/17 03:04 PM Re: Round Table For September 2017 [Re: Greger]
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Last night on Real Time, Bill Maher flipped the script on Trump and his ahole supporters and now it's Liberals who want 'states rights' - leave our pesticide free-clean state and our sanctuary cities alone! And, quit taking down our solar panels and quit trying to segregate our bathrooms!

It's pretty awesome. You gotta watch.
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#303136 - 09/16/17 08:58 PM Re: Round Table For September 2017 [Re: pdx rick]
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Not to mention Jeff Sessions and his Reefer Madness approach to medical marijuana. I think he's going to throw a fit when Congress finally passes a bill to decriminalize it federally.

"Good people don't smoke marijuana."

Except of course for all those cancer and AIDs victims, kids with seizure disorders, vets with PTSD, and so on. They think about 2.6 million of people would be medical marijuana users when all states legalize it. Hey Jeff, you're getting up into holocaust territory there!

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#303138 - 09/17/17 12:53 AM Re: Round Table For September 2017 [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
Power went out again four hours ago, internet still up so I'm running computer on generator. Doesn't look like it's gonna get fixed tonight so I've gotta hook up the fridge and freezer to generator again.
A wicked little thunderstorm came through and knocked it and there's no telling how long before someone gets back out here in the swamp to fix it.

Oh, no! Another one heading to Florida!

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#303139 - 09/17/17 12:56 AM Re: Round Table For September 2017 [Re: Greger]
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#303147 - 09/17/17 03:21 PM Re: Round Table For September 2017 [Re: matthew]
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About 12 years ago, three hurricanes hit Florida. I lost power for a week to ten days during each of them. There is a particularly swampy little area my power line runs through a mile or so away where there had been a little forest fire the year before and there were a bunch of dead trees just poised and waiting for a stiff breeze to clip the line.
They did and it took a swamp buggy machine to get out there and make repairs. Then there was nothing for over ten years. Last year Hurricane Mathew brushed by the state and caused a little flooding here but I never lost power.
It wouldn't shock or surprise me if we get hit by another one. Overpopulation in, and over-development of, the coastal regions, particularly swampy south Florida, which is just a bunch of drained swamps and never should have been developed in the first place, makes these storms a lot more devastating than they should be.
They blow through, they make news, they ruin lives, then it's on to the next natural disaster.
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#303148 - 09/17/17 06:17 PM Re: Round Table For September 2017 [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
They blow through, they make news, they ruin lives, then it's on to the next natural disaster.

Sounds like your average GOP Presidential Administration. coffee
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#303154 - 09/18/17 01:06 AM Re: Round Table For September 2017 [Re: Greger]
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a bunch of drained swamps and never should have been developed in the first place


Exactly the way I feel about it. If they wanted to develop it to begin with they should have dredged up way more swamp and sand bars to make some land a few dozen feet above sea level, then built on that. Hurricanes would be no problem if your land was 40 feet above sea level.

Of course, you could say the same thing about Southern Texas and Louisiana. The fact that lots of New Orleans is below sea level is just insane. The should just put everything up on pilings and let the water in. The new Venice. Take your boat to work.

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#303157 - 09/18/17 02:12 AM Re: Round Table For September 2017 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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You don't hear much about it and there's not nearly as much development over on the west coast. That's because a lot of it looks like this...
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