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#303295 - 10/02/17 10:00 PM Las Vegas Massacre
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What I find interesting is that Stephen Paddock was 64 years of age.

I have long been puzzled why more mass shooters and terrorists aren't elderly. Logically, people with one foot in the grave and little to look forward to in life should be more willing to sacrifice themselves for some cause.

Do the elderly appreciate life more than the young, despite all the drawbacks of age and near death?

Perhaps being "older and wiser", they understand that it is unlikely that mass murder will produce a positive result.

However, both here and in daily life, I see little evidence that wisdom is much in evidence in the lives of most of the elderly.
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#303296 - 10/02/17 10:59 PM Re: Las Vegas Massacre [Re: matthew]
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What's really very strange is that this guy does not fit any profile at all. We know he was pretty well off, had two planes and a pilot's license. Liked to play $100 a hand video poker. No religion, no politics. Brother describes him as non-violent. Did he just run out of money, and decide to end it all spectacularly?

Kinda makes me wonder if somebody else did the shooting and just lured him there as a fall guy. I'd really like to see his history of buying all these guns and the autopsy results with clothing and arms saturated with powder residue. Time of death liver temperature could tell us he was alive while the shooting was going on.

Maybe the only reliable indicator somebody is going to carry out a mass shooting is that he buys a lot of guns and ammo. Maybe we need to monitor that better.
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#303297 - 10/02/17 11:24 PM Re: Las Vegas Massacre [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Maybe the only reliable indicator somebody is going to carry out a mass shooting is that he buys a lot of guns and ammo. Maybe we need to monitor that better.

I have long thought that rather than tackling the hopeless job of controlling guns, we should concentrate on strictly controlling ammunition.
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#303298 - 10/02/17 11:29 PM Re: Las Vegas Massacre [Re: matthew]
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What are the chances this guy was a right-wing militant?



The only unknown is whether he supported Trump in 2016.
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#303300 - 10/02/17 11:43 PM Re: Las Vegas Massacre [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
What's really very strange is that this guy does not fit any profile at all. We know he was pretty well off, had two planes and a pilot's license. Liked to play $100 a hand video poker. No religion, no politics. Brother describes him as non-violent. Did he just run out of money, and decide to end it all spectacularly?

Kinda makes me wonder if somebody else did the shooting and just lured him there as a fall guy. I'd really like to see his history of buying all these guns and the autopsy results with clothing and arms saturated with powder residue. Time of death liver temperature could tell us he was alive while the shooting was going on.

Maybe the only reliable indicator somebody is going to carry out a mass shooting is that he buys a lot of guns and ammo. Maybe we need to monitor that better.

News reports is that the shooter bought three of those long-guns within the last year at a Las Vegas area gun shop.
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#303301 - 10/02/17 11:44 PM Re: Las Vegas Massacre [Re: matthew]
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64: Younger than me.
White: Yes
Gun Owner: They found more guns and ammo at his house.
Hunter" ? How do we know this?
Lives in rural area: But was manager of an apartment complex there, so not so rural!
Trump Supporter: ? How do we know this?

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#303302 - 10/02/17 11:47 PM Re: Las Vegas Massacre [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
64: Younger than me.
White: Yes
Gun Owner: They found more guns and ammo at his house.
Hunter" ? How do we know this?
Lives in rural area: But was manager of an apartment complex there, so not so rural!
Trump Supporter: ? How do we know this?

...but, every one knows you're a Prius-driving tree-hugger. smile We don't know if he was a Trump supporter. Hmm
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#303303 - 10/02/17 11:52 PM Re: Las Vegas Massacre [Re: matthew]
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Originally Posted By: matthew
I have long been puzzled why more mass shooters and terrorists aren't elderly. Logically, people with one foot in the grave and little to look forward to in life should be more willing to sacrifice themselves for some cause.

Wisdom is over-rated... count me in!
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#303305 - 10/02/17 11:54 PM Re: Las Vegas Massacre [Re: matthew]
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I expect that a New Frontier in terrorism has been opened: firing into crowds from high-rise tower windows.

Paddock supposedly shattered the thick window with some sort of sledge hammer.

Perhaps we must begin to put sensors in or by windows that will alert authorities if a window has been shattered.
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#303307 - 10/03/17 12:34 AM Re: Las Vegas Massacre [Re: matthew]
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As of 3:30 PM Pacific Time:

Seven hours ago, official tools of the Right began a desperate attempt to FLOG the Las Vegas shooting as an instrument of "leftist" anger.
Seven HOURS ago...that's 8 o'clock in the morning, Pacific Time, 5 AM Eastern Time.
The amateurs began flogging it MINUTES after it happened, or AS IT WAS happening but the OFFICIAL organs picked up the chase before the Sun came up.

Kevin Martin - BREITBART reporter


Quote:
The shooter, Stephen Craig Paddock, 64.. a white liberal Democrat, hated President Trump and spoke openly about his political views. They are as follows...
Political Views per his Facebook page:
-Proud to Be A Democrat
-The Rachel Maddow Show​
-Thank You Obama
-Anti-Trump Army
-Progressive Day,
Organizing for Action (Soros)
-Not My President
-Fight Trump
-Boycott All Things Trump
-Impeach Trump
I am sharing, because the media won't.


The so called "Facebook page" attributed to Paddock was created by 4chan member Matthew Poland, who actually popped up from his 4chan anonymity to again point TO the faked page on Martin's thread.
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