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#303852 - 11/11/17 06:27 AM There is no bottom
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The defense of Roy Moore has demonstrated that there is no bottom to Republican politics. The unholy excuses of Roy Moore's allies - CNN.
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"Take Joseph and Mary," Alabama State Auditor Jim Zeigler told the Washington Examiner. "Mary was a teenager and Joseph was an adult carpenter. They became parents of Jesus. There's just nothing immoral or illegal here. Maybe just a little bit unusual."
Seriously?

The GOP is completely without a moral compass. If you're a Democrat, crucifixion is too good for you; if you're a Republican, no crime is disqualifying. Republican Voters Won’t Care One Bit Whether Roy Moore Molested an Underage Girl - Slate.
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when one of their own is accused of such a crime, they respond along the lines of Bibb County GOP chairman Jerry Pow, who said on Thursday that he would vote for Moore even if he did commit a sex crime against an underage girl. “I’m not saying I support what he did,” Pow said. Supporting child abuse is one thing—supporting an alleged child abuser, to some in the GOP, is another.
It used to be that being a child molester or sexual predator was disqualifying. What a quaint notion...
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#303854 - 11/11/17 07:42 AM Re: There is no bottom [Re: NW Ponderer]
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By the way, Moore admitted enough in his Hannity interview to corroborate the allegations.
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He also said he would've never dated a woman without her mother's permission but added that Thacker and Gibson's mothers had encouraged the girls to be friends with him.
At 32, he shouldn't have dated a girl young enough to require her mother's permission...
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#303855 - 11/11/17 08:55 AM Re: There is no bottom [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Funny that these same people who are unfazed by the Moore allegations and are saying "innocent until proven guilty", and "if he did it, it was such a long time ago", and "why didn't they bring this up when he was campaigning", etc,. are the same people who chanted "LOCK HER UP! LOCK HER UP", with a certain presidential candidate cheerleading at Trump rallies.

Their hypocrisy is certainly proven beyond a shadow of a doubt.
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#303858 - 11/11/17 12:59 PM Re: There is no bottom [Re: NW Ponderer]
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And god notices. Their god holds grudges, too.
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#303859 - 11/11/17 01:49 PM Re: There is no bottom [Re: NW Ponderer]
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#303861 - 11/11/17 02:14 PM Re: There is no bottom [Re: NW Ponderer]
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I looked Kayla Moore up on Spokeo and found three listings showing she was related to Roy and three of their kids (don't know why daughter Ory was omitted on all three). Her age was different on all three -- 52, 55, and 56. So she is 14 to 18 years younger than Roy. He was 38 when they married and she was 20 to 24. She is about the age of the girls Roy was trolling when he was 32. I wonder how old she was when they started dating.
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#303865 - 11/11/17 02:43 PM Re: There is no bottom [Re: Spag-hetti]
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I did the same research and reached the same conclusions. He's 70, now, but unrepentant. Isn't that what God demands? Repentance?
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#303866 - 11/11/17 04:05 PM Re: There is no bottom [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Paul Reynolds, the Republican national committeeman from Alabama, told The Hill that something “doesn’t smell right” about the report. “My gosh, it’s The Washington Post. If I’ve got a choice of putting my welfare into the hands of [Russian President Vladimir] Putin or The Washington Post, Putin wins every time,” he said.
'Nuff said.
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“I’m not saying I support what he did,” Bibb County Chairman Jerry Pow told journalist Dale. But Pow said he’ll still vote for Moore, simply because he doesn’t want to vote for the Democrat.
What amazes me is that they say threes things with impunity and without an ounce of self-reflection.
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#303867 - 11/11/17 04:08 PM Re: There is no bottom [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
The GOP is completely without a moral compass. If you're a Democrat, crucifixion is too good for you; if you're a Republican, no crime is disqualifying.

Democrats convict their sex criminals like Anthony Weiner; Republicans elect theirs, like Trump and Moore. Hmm
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#303871 - 11/11/17 05:46 PM Re: There is no bottom [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
What amazes me is that they say threes things with impunity and without an ounce of self-reflection.

It's pure, low-brow conservative bigotry. That's Trump's most solid base. Next up the devolutionary ladder are the purely selfish and narrow minded conservatives. Above that (but still underground) are the power seeking conservative ideologues who might actually think they are doing the right things. On second thought, I think that third one might be temious...

There is probably a race of genuine humans who still call themselves conservatives out of a nostalgic longing, but they are not in the game anymore.
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#303880 - 11/11/17 09:51 PM Re: There is no bottom [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Clearly Roy Moore has a penchant for younger women. He was 38 when he married his 24 year old bride. It's consistent with the age spread in the girls he "dated." Extremely consistent, in fact.

When Roy Moore was 32, he would have dated a 15 year old - and that's around the age of these four women from the WaPo article.

Given that it was 1979, and Alabama, most people living there would have considered the age spread as normal, probably.

I found this after writing the above:

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Moore was the only vote in favor of a day care worker who raped a 12-year-old, claiming there was no ‘implied threat of serious physical injury’.

In 2015, while Moore was serving on the Alabama Supreme Court, he considered the case of Eric Lemont Higdon, a 17-year-old, who was convicted of raping a 12-year-old at a daycare center. Higdon was found guilty under a sodomy statute that applied specifically to minors, as well another statute prohibiting rape. The second conviction was overturned by an appeals court and sent to the state supreme court for review.

Eight justices found that the 12-year-old’s fear of harm from a much older and larger individual was enough to establish “implied threat of serious physical injury” and reinstated Higdon’s conviction. Moore was the only dissent, saying that there was “no evidence in this case of an implied threat of serious physical injury.”

- Think Progress


Yeah...Roy Moore dated teenagers. Hmm
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#303886 - 11/12/17 06:50 AM Re: There is no bottom [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Boy! Ol' Roy sure got the liberals all a-riled up! Ye-Haw!

They so dumb they think we all care about who Roy dated or didn't date - Roy is one of us and that's that. Roy ain't done nothing unusual or anything. He had the mother's permission. That's all that matters, i'tn't?
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#303890 - 11/12/17 02:12 PM Re: There is no bottom [Re: Irked]
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Do y'all suppose Roy said to himself after work, when he was 32, "I think I'll mosey on over to the high school and find me a gal that I can relate to who's on my level."

Or did he think, "I'd like me some o' that teenage booty!"
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#303902 - 11/12/17 10:56 PM Re: There is no bottom [Re: NW Ponderer]
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I think he fell for the Christian mythology of the time: There are bad girls (who are not virgins), and there are good girls (who are). You should only be with girls who are, and in Alabama that's any 16 year old who can run faster than her cousins or brothers.

Got to make sure there is no father in the picture because they have a tendency to castrate or shoot any 30 year old messing with their daughter. That's why he said: "As long as you have her mother's permission, it's okay." If you can find a single mom who sees her daughter as competition, that's perfect. She will be very happy to marry off her daughter ASAP and get her out of the house.

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