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#303874 - 11/11/17 06:20 PM Re: Al Franken 2020 [Re: pdx rick]
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While Senator Franken would be an interesting choice. I think we need to look to someone younger. Maybe Senator Corry Booker

Booker has compromised himself with a few of his votes. He's no longer on my short list. And he's black. Deny racism all you want but that's a strike against him right now.
Bernie and Biden are too old. Both would probably be capable of doing the job and both would probably do an excellent job as president, but I have some doubts about whether they are electable in 2020. Both should run, by all means, early primaries will determine whether they have the backing to go all the way or not.

Justice Ginsberg is a hero to liberals everywhere but we all know that she's not going to be around much longer. Perhaps it would have been best if she'd resigned at the beginning of Obama's second term when he could have gotten an equally liberal justice onto the bench.
The way things are looking it's entirely possible that Donald Trump will be the man to replace her.

Taking a "Goldilocks and the Three Bears" look at 2020, Booker, at 48, is probably too young and inexperienced, Biden and Sanders, too old.
Franken on the other hand might be "just right".
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#303876 - 11/11/17 07:14 PM Re: Al Franken 2020 [Re: logtroll]
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I have long considered Franken a worthy presidential candidate with much needed Gravitas.

I remember him from his time on "Air America" with Rachel Maddow, while he was in the process of rehabilitating his reputation from SNL comedian, and other violations, one of which I accidentally encountered recently.

Although there is no record of Franken with public masturbation or diddling, there is, however, unfortunate video documentation of his participation/collusion in captive audience bestiality, or at least animal "husbandry" voyeurism. This damning episode is at least partially mitigated by Franken's intellectual dialog and gestures.

Al Franken Gorilla Love



I think he has made remarkable progress since then!

I do love the final frame, and I hope we will soon see such expressions on the faces of t-rump and associates when they meet their new prison friends!

My order of prefurances, after trump of course would be: Flynns, Sessions, Miller, Manifort, Bannon, Jarrad, Willbuur and too many to mention...

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#303877 - 11/11/17 07:25 PM Re: Al Franken 2020 [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
Bernie and Biden are too old. Both would probably be capable of doing the job and both would probably do an excellent job as president, but I have some doubts about whether they are electable in 2020.

Bernie would have beaten Trump in 2016, and can beat Trump 2020. Biden could have beaten Trump in 2016, and can beat Trump in 2020.

Both are good, safe bets. We need a sure win. Hmm

As a younger Dem (than most of you) - we need older, wiser, heads to prevail in this election.



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#303882 - 11/12/17 04:53 AM Re: Al Franken 2020 [Re: pdx rick]
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Hopefully everyone we're discussing here will throw their hat in the ring in 2020. The voters will decide who is most exciting to them when the time comes. I'll likely pick a favorite and argue here in their favor but it really doesn't matter to me which one gets the nod, I'll vote for the Democrat.
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#303883 - 11/12/17 04:55 AM Re: Al Franken 2020 [Re: pdx rick]
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Both are good, safe bets. We need a sure win.


Hillary was pretty much considered a sure win. Right up until she didn't.
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#303885 - 11/12/17 04:58 AM Re: Al Franken 2020 [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
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Both are good, safe bets. We need a sure win.


Hillary was pretty much considered a sure win. Right up until she didn't.

No. I told you guys all along that Hillary was vulnerable, because in the circles I travel in, she was not liked and those in the circles were not going to vote for her.

I wrote during the primary that HClinton was a very unlikable person.

Heck, I didn't even vote. I couldn't vote for her. No way, no how. mad

Having said all of the above, I would have accepted her winning the election a lot better than Donald J Trump's win.
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#303887 - 11/12/17 07:00 AM Re: Al Franken 2020 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Come on! Gotta let people have their dreams, amirite? Especially when those dreams help the Right side solidify their natural position of control.
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#303889 - 11/12/17 10:32 AM Re: Al Franken 2020 [Re: pdx rick]
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Bernie would have beaten Trump in 2016, and can beat Trump 2020. Biden could have beaten Trump in 2016, and can beat Trump in 2020.


Bernie would have done great with all the younger voters, but everybody age 50 and up lived through the Cold War and would NEVER EVER vote for a Communist, and they all believe that Socialist = Communist. And of course he was the Republican's fondest wish: A Presidential candidate they could beat so badly no Demcrats would win election in 2008.

But Biden, maybe: If all the Bernie Bros got off their collective asses and bothered to vote for him. I suspect though that they would all be sore losers and stay home.

Actually, a Sanders win would have been interesting, mainly: Who would Putin support? He obviously is not a Trump supporter, per se, because the Russian Troll Farm began attacking Trump immediately after the election. He just wants America in chaos and ruin. Would the old head of the KGB support the Socialist candidate (which he would obviously see as Russia-friendly) or stick with the plan to support the worst possible candidate.

Obviously, Putin has not thought this through: A stable, rational US administration does not wake up one morning and decide today is a good day to nuke Russia.

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#303891 - 11/12/17 04:08 PM Re: Al Franken 2020 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Who would Putin support? He obviously is not a Trump supporter, per se...does not wake up one morning and decide today is a good day to nuke Russia.

Actually, Putin IS a supporter of Trump per this thread. For whatever reason(s), Trump initiated all of his love for Putin on his own - and all Putin has to do is sit back and bask in its glory. Putin didn't have to lift a finger.

I think the real reason Trump kisses Putin's butt is so that Trump can build "Trump Hotel Moscow" - a dream that Donald J has had since the early 1990s.

I'm seeing, and learning, that everything that Donald J says and does, is only to benefit Donald J in some way. Hmm
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#303899 - 11/12/17 10:41 PM Re: Al Franken 2020 [Re: pdx rick]
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Putin IS a supporter of Trump


No he is not. I saw a news segment where they were looking at internet activity of the Russian Troll Farm. These are the people who came up with solid numbers of the millions of posts the Troll Farm made. The day after the election they started to post about how unqualified Trump is. Their mission is to see that America has the worst possible leader AND NOW has no confidence in him. They want a weak America and they have been very successful so far.

Most people think the President is a pathological liar, insane, or a Russian agent. Or maybe all three. Good work, guys!

Putin kissing up to Trump on state visits is just window dressing. This is the former head of the KGB. You have to look at what he is actually doing, not what he says.

Look at 4chan, to see what they are doing: Almost all Trump hate threads now!

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