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#303812 - 11/09/17 04:02 PM Re: the democratic plan to win [Re: chunkstyle]
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Analyzing Trump's appeal (I admit to still being mostly baffled by what any normal person would see in that sub-human clown), I can only settle on the fact that he is fearless; he is stupid, narcissistic, angry, destructive, crooked to the hilt, racist, misogynistic, bullying, cowardly (yes, I know that seems to contradict fearlessness), unprincipled, dogshiit. But all he needed was to be fearless and say whatever insulting thing that came to mind, in order to get the votes of millions of dull-tool voters.

So what if the Dems consciously choose a fearless leader, and one who doesn't have the comprehensive list of negatives in their personality and history that Trump has?

Jeff may be right - Franken is our man.
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#303813 - 11/09/17 04:49 PM Re: the democratic plan to win [Re: jgw]
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Or maybe that 'dull tool' voter has had enough of the B.S. liberal crap that's been getting sold and Trump was a big F.U!
My last rock to throw. I'll shut up now. Clinton good. Barack Obama good. eek

Franks uncomfortable message to liberals if they care to hear it...

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#303814 - 11/09/17 05:30 PM Re: the democratic plan to win [Re: chunkstyle]
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Quote:
Trump was a big F.U!

don't sell yourself short on the afterthught

listening to Trump supporters where I go that may be the over riding reason they voted for him and for no other reason. consider when apprised of all his failures they still support him and then say, it was all about him
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#303816 - 11/09/17 06:59 PM Re: the democratic plan to win [Re: chunkstyle]
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Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
Or maybe that 'dull tool' voter has had enough of the B.S. liberal crap that's been getting sold and Trump was a big F.U!
My last rock to throw. I'll shut up now. Clinton good. Barack Obama good. eek

Franks uncomfortable message to liberals if they care to hear it...


Whoops! my apologies to liberals. Meant to say neolibeal B.S.

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#303818 - 11/09/17 07:42 PM Re: the democratic plan to win [Re: rporter314]
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Originally Posted By: rporter314
Quote:
Trump was a big F.U!

listening to Trump supporters where I go that may be the over riding reason they voted for him and for no other reason. consider when apprised of all his failures they still support him and then say, it was all about him

I agree that the prime appeal to Trump's base is simply that he is an assshole. We can forget about ever swinging them.

The folks I am calling 'dull tools' are people like the ones in the Iowa town article - they can be influenced by a charismatic Lib.

Clinton only lost by -3 million votes out of what, 130 million? Just a temious guess, but I think at least 30 million of Trump's votes were swingable.
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#303820 - 11/09/17 07:55 PM Re: the democratic plan to win [Re: logtroll]
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Let me refute your arithmetic with round numbers (not those square ones)

about 63M voted for Mr Trump. Currently Mr Trump enjoys continued support from his base of about 90%. Therefore today the number may be about 10M dissatisfied voters. But do not think that all would necessarily vote for a Dem. These folks may have actually been duped into believing Mr Trump would actually make good on his promises, which would probably be jobs, health care, etc.

I suspect Mr Trump brought to the surface the seething underbelly of American deplorables. I also suspect this may be the maximum number of people, despite the fact to me it appears large, who believe in the current Republican brand of populism and nativism, which can be a good thing, or perhaps I am wrong and it is only the beginning of these folks boiling over into the mainstream.
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#303822 - 11/09/17 08:52 PM Re: the democratic plan to win [Re: jgw]
chunkstyle Offline
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Chris Hedges is currently on a speaking tour. If you get a chance I would suggest going to listen. He's done a harsh job of illuminating what time it is...
No easy answers here

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#303824 - 11/09/17 09:26 PM Re: the democratic plan to win [Re: jgw]
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Interesting. I titled this one "the democratic plan to win". Seems that all has to do with Trump so, effectively, this topic is yet another Trump topic. (pretty tired of Trump) The man is a liar and a jackass (there is, of course more). He has been doing an absolutely great job of gathering enemies and tooting his horn with lies and innuendo. The only really sad thing is that so many continue to believe his bs.

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#303829 - 11/09/17 09:59 PM Re: the democratic plan to win [Re: jgw]
chunkstyle Offline
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Win what? Maybe the question is not understood.



Edited by chunkstyle (11/09/17 10:00 PM)

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#303830 - 11/09/17 10:21 PM Re: the democratic plan to win [Re: jgw]
chunkstyle Offline
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Four words:
Overthrow the corporate state

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