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#303909 - 11/13/17 02:03 AM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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Ted, did you see this thread?
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#303910 - 11/13/17 02:07 AM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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President Trump:
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"Every time he sees me, he says, 'I didn't do that,' " Trump said. "And I believe, I really believe, that when he tells me that, he means it."

John McCain:
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"There's nothing 'America First' about taking the word of a KGB colonel over that of the American intelligence community."


Trump says he believes Putin's election meddling denials
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#303914 - 11/13/17 04:13 AM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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Ted Remington:

Facebook post

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When asked by the Donald if Russia had interfered in the American election, Putin actually answered, "Why, yes, I did, Donny, and now you are my slave for the rest of your term. Why? Because you cannot tell anyone the truth, since your administration would be gone by the time you got back to DC. All it takes is one nod from me and you are history. So let's talk about a unilateral reduction in America's nuclear arms and a complete removal of your military presence from anywhere that is not US territory. By the way, the borscht is terrific just after the beet harvest. Start by getting a [censored] haircut."
If you think about it for a minute you will see that Putin, a retired KGB colonel, would have had no choice except to say yes. There was never a greater opportunity for the Russians since 1917. Even if the true answer is no.
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#303920 - 11/14/17 02:31 AM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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Anyone doubt anymore that WikiLeaks is a Russian operation? The Secret Correspondence Between Donald Trump Jr. and WikiLeaks - CNN.
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#303932 - 11/14/17 09:56 PM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: NW Ponderer]
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“I had no recollection of this meeting until I saw these news reports I got caught,” Mr. Sessions said.
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#303933 - 11/14/17 10:52 PM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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I thought the same thing, how can AG Sessions remember only what has been reported and has no recollection of anything else. Seems odd, but then I have always thought AG Sessions was odd in a variety of ways
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#303936 - 11/15/17 03:20 AM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
“I had no recollection of this meeting until I saw these news reports I got caught,” Mr. Sessions said.

The Ronald Reagan defense. coffee
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#303937 - 11/15/17 03:21 AM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: rporter314]
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Originally Posted By: rporter314
I thought the same thing, how can AG Sessions remember only what has been reported and has no recollection of anything else. Seems odd, but then I have always thought AG Sessions was odd in a variety of ways

Jefferson Beauregard's dotard bloated orange boss is no better! mad



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#304186 - 12/02/17 01:32 AM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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Flynn has a deal with Mueller, and deals do not get made to implicate lower people in the organization. So who is higher than Flynn in the Trump administration? Who's ass is grass?

Obvious answer is Kushner, but Pence and Trump himself are also possible answers. Flynn supposedly was asked to resign because he lied about Russia contacts to Pence, but maybe he was doing exactly what he was told to do, and only these three would be in a position to tell him what to do.

Trump already said publicly that he didn't tell Flynn to make a deal with the Russians before the inauguration (which is a violation of The Logan Act), but that he would have if he thought Flynn was NOT doing that. Typical backhanded Trump confession! Since Trump has a very flexible memory and only a slight acquaintance with the truth, I think there is a very good chance Trump was one of those who told Flynn to break the law and undermine the Obama administration.

Anyway. Mueller knows all of Flynn's secrets now: You don't get such a plea deal without telling the whole truth to the prosecutor. And you don't get a such minor charge unless the prosecutor has a half dozen other charges he could make.

I think Trump should be thinking of an exit strategy. One he can claim as a "win".

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#304188 - 12/02/17 03:38 AM Re: Trump and Russia [Re: pdx rick]
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Something to remember

Mr Trump is a narcissist. He has built an elaborate delusional world to insulate himself from reality in which he is the greatest etc. In is world he has done no wrong.

How would anyone convict someone who can not discern the difference between a delusional world and reality? If he were deposed I guarantee he will "lie", but in his world he will be telling the truth.
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