Current Topics
Mueller indictments
by NW Ponderer
0 seconds ago
Round Table For July 2018
by Jeffery J. Haas
Today at 03:59 AM
The Democratic Plan
by chunkstyle
Today at 12:26 AM
The War On Drugs
by Greger
Yesterday at 07:24 PM
Returning rationality to public policy
by NW Ponderer
Yesterday at 06:35 PM
by jgw
Yesterday at 06:05 PM
Weep afresh, America
by Greger
Yesterday at 02:12 AM
by jgw
07/20/18 09:08 PM
'Boy or girl?' Parents raising 'theybies' let kids decide
by pondering_it_all
07/20/18 06:25 AM
The Passing Parade: Obituaries: 2018
by Golem
07/19/18 07:25 PM
Yes, Normal Republican Elites Are a Threat to Democracy
by Greger
07/17/18 02:15 AM
Pie Chart Fight
by chunkstyle
07/16/18 04:39 PM
Miscellaneous humor thread
by logtroll
07/16/18 12:34 AM
The Trump Precedency: the 25th Amendment
by pondering_it_all
07/14/18 10:11 PM
The End of the Independent Judiciary
by chunkstyle
07/13/18 08:40 PM
FBI Investigator
by Ujest Shurly
07/13/18 08:25 PM
Charles Oakley arrested for allegedly cheating at casino
by pondering_it_all
07/12/18 10:49 PM
The immigration thing
by NW Ponderer
07/12/18 07:05 PM
Being Uncivil to Barbarians
by Greger
07/12/18 04:48 PM
How to tell a real Trump supporter from a Russian troll
by Greger
07/12/18 04:36 PM
Forum Stats
6248 Members
58 Forums
16316 Topics
280982 Posts

Max Online: 294 @ 12/06/17 12:57 AM
Google Adsense
Topic Options
#304430 - 12/13/17 06:48 PM speculative tv
jgw Offline

Registered: 05/22/06
Posts: 2033
Loc: Port Angeles, WA
Approximately 99% of the current tv 'news' is nothing of the kind. Instead of being called 'news' it would be more accurate to call it "Speculative TV". Then, in addition, they should rate their talking heads on the accuracy of their prognostications. If they did that, and added the talking head score, when the talking head prognosticates it would help the watcher consider such prognostications AND the prognosticator.

If they did this then, at least, it would 1)accurately describe what you are watching and 2)give the watcher an idea of the skill with which the prognosticator imparts his/her wisdom and skill at telling the future.

Just a thought..............

#304431 - 12/13/17 08:47 PM Re: speculative tv [Re: jgw]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline


Registered: 08/03/04
Posts: 13202
Loc: Whittier, California
Television news in the USA was originally a nonprofit public service provided by networks and stations in fulfillment of service to the public interest. The Fairness Doctrine helped to insure objectivity and impartiality.
News departments were granted the latitude to lose a small amount of money and at times they would still manage to break even, but networks and stations traded on the prestige of their news product and relied on entertainment programming to pick up the slack.

With the advent of Rupert Murdoch and Roger Ailes, the Nixon memo "A Plan for Putting the GOP on TV News", and the death of The Fairness Doctrine, TV news switched to being a consumer product, and by the 1990's the transition was complete with the debut of Fox News Channel.

Walter Cronkite gave the commencement speech to my class at Brown Institute on the eve of his resignation from CBS News. The official story was that he had reached the CBS official retirement age of 65 but that's nonsense, and Cronkite as much as alluded to that when he said that our journalism class was about to enter a world which was nothing like what we had trained for, and that the only constant we could rely on was the shifting landscape itself, something he was not prepared to do.
At that time, Cronkite was still known as "The most trusted man in America" and he could have stayed on at CBS until he was 192 years old if he wished. His ratings were still at the top.
But the old emeritus chose to exit the game rather than pander to profit demands from the top execs.

His friend, ABC news anchor Roger Petersen, a Brown grad himself, dittoed Cronkite's remarks.
"He wakes up in the morning, ****s all over Twitter, ****s all over us, ****s all over his staff, then hits golf balls."
---Congressman Peter King

#304434 - 12/13/17 10:17 PM Re: speculative tv [Re: jgw]
jgw Offline

Registered: 05/22/06
Posts: 2033
Loc: Port Angeles, WA
I have no problem with what you said and remember all of that. My point, however, is a kindofa plea that tv, at the very least, admit to what they are doing. If, on top of that, they actually rate the accuracy of their prognosticators it would serve to show what is going on as well as raise the entertainment value. Their obvious greed for ratings are, basically, responsible for Trump. Since they have eschewed any thoughts of responsibility, fair play, or honesty I am offering a possible solution to part of that. I would think that, in the interest of fairness, they would, at the very least, explain their fortune telling and rate their incredible success at that same fortune telling. Right now they are no better than the fortune teller, in the little trailer at the edge of town. If they continue to call their offerings "news" they are just damned liars. I would think that they could improve on that AND increase their entertainment value at the same time.

We tend to watch PBS for our evening news. I have been noticing a slight move to fortune telling but no where near the sheer volume of prognostication that goes on in the for profit realm. We also watch Vice news.

Its really pretty interesting. Trump says "fake news' and, in large part its true. He would, however, be more accurate to label their efforts as "no news". Their actual news hs been relegated to the little streaming line on the bottom of the screen whilst most of it consists of talking heads predicting the future and little else.

Again - just a thought..............

Edited by jgw (12/13/17 10:21 PM)


Who's Online
0 registered (), 42 Guests and 2 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
TrentonP, Nosf50, erumonej, Jensen Breck, Albertapkr
6248 Registered Users