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#304597 - 12/23/17 05:44 PM Where to legally buy recreational marijuana in California starting Jan. 1
Golem Offline
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December 21, 2017

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Starting Jan. 1, anyone 21 and older will be able to legally buy marijuana in California with just an ID.

However, only shops with both local permits and state licenses to sell recreational cannabis will be able to open their doors to customers who don’t have doctor’s recommendations for medical marijuana.

The Bureau of Cannabis Control on Dec. 14 started issuing temporary licenses for recreational marijuana sales. Here’s a map of every shop that’s so far sanctioned to sell cannabis to adults on New Year’s Day. The map will be updated frequently, with new state licenses issued each day.

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#304598 - 12/23/17 06:46 PM Re: Where to legally buy recreational marijuana in California starting Jan. 1 [Re: Golem]
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Welcome to the two-thousand tens, California. laugh

Recreational Cannabis sales in the United States:

2013: Colorado and Washington
2015: Oregon, Alaska, Washington DC
2018: California
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#304600 - 12/23/17 06:54 PM Re: Where to legally buy recreational marijuana in California starting Jan. 1 [Re: Golem]
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I'm surprised that California wasn't the first. grin

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#304606 - 12/23/17 08:08 PM Re: Where to legally buy recreational marijuana in California starting Jan. 1 [Re: Golem]
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I'm sure that every legal medical marijuana dispensary has filed the paperwork to add recreational sales. It is potentially a much larger market. It is interesting that there are some differences between medical marijuana users and recreational users. For example, recreational users can grow up to 6 mature plants but MM users (who are also recreational) can grow as much as they need. MM growers can keep all the weed they grow in a locked cabinet in the home. Recreational growers are restricted to one pound.

Also, every county and incorporated area can limit everything except growing and possessing it in your own home and transporting under an ounce. The upshot: It's probably too confusing for police. I think they are just concentrating on large unlicensed growers and unlicensed sales now. In fact it has been legal for recreational users to grow, possess, smoke, and give away weed since 2016.

There has actually been an unlicensed dispensary in my town for months and the police have not bothered with it.

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#304701 - 12/29/17 03:37 AM Re: Where to legally buy recreational marijuana in California starting Jan. 1 [Re: Golem]
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At this point, with Republicans in power, the entire notion of "medical users" is now poisoned because medical users are now regarded as second class citizens.
Laws are already on the books OR IN process to deny medical users the following rights:

own firearms
drivers license
professional licenses or certifications
adequate credit
witness credibility in tort

There's even more but that's the general list of the top five.
Several states have already issued prohibitions against firearm ownership by medical marijuana users right now, and several more are debating the withholding of professional licenses.

So screw it, no more of this medical users nonsense, it just needs to be legalized in all fifty states so that the Federal Government winds up being completely alone in the argument.
This is what happens when you try to compromise with people like Trump and his supporters.
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#304702 - 12/29/17 05:14 AM Re: Where to legally buy recreational marijuana in California starting Jan. 1 [Re: Golem]
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Not going to work too well in states with Recreational Use, like California! Considering anybody 21 or older can be a Recreational User (as of 2016) with no state tracking or registration at all.

For that matter, you can be a medical user with just a letter from a doctor. No state registration required.

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#304705 - 12/29/17 07:03 AM Re: Where to legally buy recreational marijuana in California starting Jan. 1 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Not going to work too well in states with Recreational Use, like California! Considering anybody 21 or older can be a Recreational User (as of 2016) with no state tracking or registration at all.

For that matter, you can be a medical user with just a letter from a doctor. No state registration required.


But that was my point. California is going to short circuit attempts to chisel away at the rights of MJ users, by legalizing it completely.
States that stay with the "medical user" laws will continue to chip away at patient rights. And the Republican powered DOJ is only too happy to help them.
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#304717 - 12/30/17 06:28 AM Re: Where to legally buy recreational marijuana in California starting Jan. 1 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Ya well- aside from being hijacked from Apple environs I have this to offer: Medical Marijuana in Oregon is a thing from the past. It’s all about recreational. IMO that was to be expected-- but it is surprising how quickly that happened.

That will happen “down south” for you Californianians I shall imagine:

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Elkington’s little green pot shop at 3675 Franklin Blvd. draws about three medical marijuana customers a day. Another 15 to 20 potential customers come in asking for recreational pot, but he can’t sell to them — yet.

The rapid growth and evolution of the marijuana marketplace in Oregon is prompting Elkington to apply with the Oregon Liquor Control Commission to become a recreational pot shop. He plans to let his status as a medical pot dispensary with the Oregon Health Authority lapse in March.

“It’s a financial decision,” Elkington said.
He’s not alone in going recreational.


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#304724 - 12/30/17 10:07 PM Re: Where to legally buy recreational marijuana in California starting Jan. 1 [Re: Golem]
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#304729 - 12/31/17 01:10 AM Re: Where to legally buy recreational marijuana in California starting Jan. 1 [Re: Golem]
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Sounds like a great business opportunity for somebody. Come in and snap up the business at foreclosure prices and then do a major rebranding campaign with lots of Black and Asian faces in the ads. Change your charity donations, and if the employees are all White, for God's Sakes hire some people of color. The right owner could turn this around within a few months.

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#304731 - 12/31/17 01:23 AM Re: Where to legally buy recreational marijuana in California starting Jan. 1 [Re: Golem]
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I suspect dispensaries will just stop bothering to qualify all of their medical marijuana users after the first. Why should they bother? They can sell everything to recreational users and everyone 21 and over is a legal recreational user. Every medical user 21 and over IS a recreational user as well.

I predict very hard times for medical marijuana doctors now. Their business is going to drop like a rock. Some home-growers may still want medical marijuana letters because the restrictions on growing are different. But would police even bother with a home-grower who has too much weed in his locked cabinet? How would they even know? Nobody wants to make a issue of it because you can still attract the attention of the feds.

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#304734 - 12/31/17 04:16 AM Re: Where to legally buy recreational marijuana in California starting Jan. 1 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Perhaps the only good thing to come out of the last election was that medical marijuana passed here in FLoriduh. Cities, counties, and the state legislature have really balked about implementing it.

Sort of makes you realize just what sort of stuffy, up tight, out of touch, people are running our local governments. You might think of AG Sessions as being sort of extreme, maybe even an outlier of sorts....No. Jeff Sessions is pretty much a clone of every elected official in the South. Our legislature decided that medical marijuana users would not actually be allowed to smoke it. It has to be procured in some non-smokeable form. And so far they've pretty much decided that it can't be sold in cities with schools or churches and counties are pretty skeptical about licensing it too. That's all working it's way through the courts as Florida bureaucrats are getting their heads wrapped around the fact that voters changed the Florida Constitution.
Eventually they'll come to terms with it and we can start talking about recreational use.

On another note I've just discovered pre-filled cannabis vape cartridges. Oh MY!!!
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#304763 - 01/01/18 07:00 PM Historic day as recreational cannabis sales begin in California [Re: Golem]
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Historic day as recreational cannabis sales begin in California

Brooke Edwards Staggs, Emily DeRuy, and Lisa M. Krieger
The Cannifornian
January 1, 2018

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Celebrating a major shift in cultural attitudes about cannabis — or just looking to enjoy the right to get high without legal entanglements — Californians lined up at dispensaries up and down the state Monday morning to be among the first to purchase recreational cannabis, more than a year after voters passed Prop. 64.

In the pre-dawn darkness at KindPeoples collective in Santa Cruz, a line of 80 people snaked around the building before doors opened. The first sale – a eighth of a gram of indica flower called ‘Nine Pound Hammer’ – was made, to resounding applause, to UC-Santa Cruz professor of Sociology and Legal Studies emeritus Craig Reinarman, 69,whose research has focused on drug policy in America.

“It feels great. It is long overdue,” Reinarman said. “Cannabis prohibition was conceived in fraud, spread by racist fears full of misinformation and myths. And now the law is finally catching up with the culture and people.”

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#304841 - 01/04/18 03:02 AM Re: Where to legally buy recreational marijuana in California starting Jan. 1 [Re: Greger]
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And vaping is technically NOT smoking! So they are going to have an interesting time with that.

Our dispensaries also have a lot of candy edibles like gummi worms with a low uniform dose in each one.

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#304851 - 01/04/18 04:00 PM Re: Where to legally buy recreational marijuana in California starting Jan. 1 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Hold on to your hats. AG Jeff Sessions, AKA the angry elf, is rolling back Obama's hand's-off policy regarding enforcement of federal pot laws. He hasn't said they'd begin enforcing the laws, but he could at any time start doing it.

Bah humbug! Liberals in a blue state are having fun, making money, and paying lots of taxes, We gotta stop that!

I thought thuglicons were all for states' rights. Is it just in cases of voter rights, abortion and not having to serve LGBT or people of color?
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#304855 - 01/04/18 07:25 PM Re: Where to legally buy recreational marijuana in California starting Jan. 1 [Re: Golem]
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I just emailed both of my state's Senators to do something about this:

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Dear Senator Harris,
DEA policy on medical marijuana is based on the lie that it has no medical use. This is obviously untrue, with countless cases of people who have been helped by medical marijuana. From children with seizure disorders to Iraq and Afghanistan vets with PTSD, it is helping so many people. Please introduce or support legislation that ends this lie. Without it, marijuana would probably be a Class 4 drug, available through any physician's prescription.


Feel free to copy and email your self, to your Senators and Representatives. I bet most of Congress would actually go along with this, if such a bill ever got to the floor, because medical marijuana is popular now.


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#304876 - 01/04/18 10:54 PM Re: Where to legally buy recreational marijuana in California starting Jan. 1 [Re: Spag-hetti]
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Originally Posted By: Spag-hetti
Hold on to your hats. AG Jeff Sessions, AKA the angry elf, is rolling back Obama's hand's-off policy regarding enforcement of federal pot laws. He hasn't said they'd begin enforcing the laws, but he could at any time start doing it.

The man is a fool. I hope Trump fires his ass.

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#304877 - 01/04/18 11:25 PM Re: Where to legally buy recreational marijuana in California starting Jan. 1 [Re: Golem]
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I wish he could fire Trump’s ass.
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#304880 - 01/05/18 01:02 AM Re: Where to legally buy recreational marijuana in California starting Jan. 1 [Re: Golem]
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I just sent an email to Senator Gardner of Colorado to ask him to support legislation that says there ARE legitimate medical uses for marijuana. He's not my Senator, but he's mighty pissed at AG Sessions right now for going back on his word at his confirmation hearing. Gardner said he is willing to do anything to stop Sessions. This would have a major effect.

I urge you all to do the same.

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#304886 - 01/05/18 05:22 AM Re: Where to legally buy recreational marijuana in California starting Jan. 1 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Eso presentaría un pequeño problema. Si uno pone a los productores estadounidenses fuera del negocio, se enfrentarán a lo inevitable:

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#304887 - 01/05/18 05:43 AM Re: Where to legally buy recreational marijuana in California starting Jan. 1 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Out of curiosity PIA why are you concerned with the medical use aspects of cannabis when both Colorado and your state (as well as mine) have legalized recreational use?

Does your concern apply to states where medical use is legalized but not recreational?

BTW I do not use cannabis. I did in my youth, but that was many many moons ago. But the fact that it remains illegal in most of the US is an absurdity beyond comprehension.

Frightened little Jeff Sessions might have an “answer" for that.
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#304889 - 01/05/18 09:08 AM Re: Where to legally buy recreational marijuana in California starting Jan. 1 [Re: Golem]
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Because of my wish that all patients in the US have access to medical marijuana if it can help them. Simply by passing such a bill declaring that there are legitimate medical uses, (which has the advantage of being true), it would force the DEA to reclassify it. Then it would be available in all 50 states and US territories with any doctor's prescription.

It would also make it possible for research projects to work with it. They have been caught in a brutal Catch-22: They can't research it because it is a Class 1 drug, and it is a Class 1 drug because there is no research in the US. It really looks like it might be effective in treating and preventing Alzheimer's Disease, so being against such research is insane.

Just by passing this simple bill that does nothing but insist on the truth, and that 64% of the voters approve, we take a huge pressure off marijuana enforcement.
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