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#299047 - 02/25/17 11:34 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: bigswede]
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Originally Posted By: bigswede
Oh! And let me add one more thing, the media. They used to be primarily about informing the public.
But lately they have taken upon them to educate or even master the public. In the age of internet this doesn't sit well with those of us who seek better information.
Media needs to sober up!


Calling them the English equivalent of "Lugenpresse", aligning millions against them, narrowing down the whitelist to a tiny handful of handpicked far right brownshirted brown-nosers and then demanding that the intel community perform as an ad hoc Ministry of Truth, why that's a surefire way to go about it, by cracky!

PS: Just what IS IT you have against the Fourth Estate EDUCATING people?

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#299048 - 02/26/17 12:24 AM Re: Trump Forum [Re: bigswede]
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Originally Posted By: bigswede
Oh! And let me add one more thing, the media. They used to be primarily about informing the public.
But lately they have taken upon them to educate or even master the public. In the age of internet this doesn't sit well with those of us who seek better information.
Media needs to sober up!


Kind of like what Breitbart, Infowars and Fox News have done for the right
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#299064 - 02/26/17 04:34 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Oh! Jeffery!
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#299072 - 02/27/17 12:28 AM ‘You Can’t Help But Think’ Slavery Is Coming Back [Re: pdx rick]
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Michelle Bernard on Trump Presidency: ‘You Can’t Help But Think’ Slavery Is Coming Back


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faAZaqELhxE

I haven't watched the entire segment.

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#299073 - 02/27/17 01:29 AM Re: ‘You Can’t Help But Think’ Slavery Is Coming Back [Re: Golem]
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The basic problem with a Trump presidency is that he thinks he can do it the same way he runs a business -- giving orders, secrecy of operations and total control. I doubt he has the temperament necessary for politics.
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#299074 - 02/27/17 02:19 AM Re: ‘You Can’t Help But Think’ Slavery Is Coming Back [Re: Phil Hoskins]
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And not even a real business where there are constraints and protocols but a family business where one guy calls all the shots and sends his family members out as emissaries to get his decisions implemented.
And no, he hasn't got the temperament or mindset to run a huge bureaucracy.
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#299075 - 02/27/17 02:39 AM Re: ‘You Can’t Help But Think’ Slavery Is Coming Back [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Phil Hoskins
The basic problem with a Trump presidency is that he thinks he can do it the same way he runs a business -- giving orders, secrecy of operations and total control. I doubt he has the temperament necessary for politics.


Originally Posted By: Greger
And not even a real business where there are constraints and protocols but a family business where one guy calls all the shots and sends his family members out as emissaries to get his decisions implemented.
And no, he hasn't got the temperament or mindset to run a huge bureaucracy.

Is it too soon to call this social experiment that CONservatives have foisted onto America, a failure? coffee
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#299082 - 02/27/17 11:27 AM Re: ‘You Can’t Help But Think’ Slavery Is Coming Back [Re: pdx rick]
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#299103 - 02/27/17 11:18 PM Re: ‘You Can’t Help But Think’ Slavery Is Coming Back [Re: pdx rick]
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I think Flynn was just the first act of the intelligence community in retaliation for Trump attacking them. I think it may be repeated many times. Just goes to show you: Don't screw with the spooks. They are 1000 times better at it than a dope like Trump and they probably have dirt on every one in his administration.

Now several of his nominees have failed or dropped out of the confirmation process even with a sympathetic Republican majority in the Senate. Think Trump just picked really bad nominees? Or did the spooks leaked information to selected Senators?

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#299104 - 02/28/17 01:54 AM Re: ‘You Can’t Help But Think’ Slavery Is Coming Back [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Trump has a penchant for making enemies of what should be friends.
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