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#304297 - 12/08/17 03:29 AM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pondering_it_all]
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If they annex Palestine, then all of those Palestinians become citizens of Israe

I think that argument is what has kept Palestine a separate entity.

The Likud Party has a always had the Biblical lands as the homeland platform. The West Bank is a part of that. So the problem has always been, how can Israel steal the land with the world looking? Once the Palestinian capital has been removed from discussion, there is no point in continuation of peace process. Now without a capital Israel can continue settlements in occupied territory until the Palestinians have been effectively politically neutered in small enclaves. Once this has been accomplished, Israel can annex, gerrymander the land and thus prevent Palestinian power.

It is the plan I would use, and I am sure the Likud has thought of it.

I am trying to find tickets for the End of Times Show .... coming to the ME sooner than God would like
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#304301 - 12/08/17 05:54 AM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
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Did I say that Republicans interpret moral high ground as weakness?
WANT PROOF??

Sheriff Joe Arpaio ‘Seriously, Seriously, Seriously’ Considering the U.S. Senate
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#304325 - 12/09/17 03:12 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Did I say that Republicans interpret moral high ground as weakness?

One of the fundamental principles of the Nuevo Regressive Conservatives is that anything goes as long as you are #WINNING!!
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#304334 - 12/09/17 10:05 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: logtroll]
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#304335 - 12/10/17 12:41 AM Re: Trump Forum [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Did I say that Republicans interpret moral high ground as weakness?
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Sheriff Joe Arpaio ‘Seriously, Seriously, Seriously’ Considering the U.S. Senate

A convicted, pardoned, felon wants to be a Senator under the Republican umbrella? Hmm Quelle surprise. coffee
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#304336 - 12/10/17 12:42 AM Re: Trump Forum [Re: Spag-hetti]
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Trump recognizes Jerusalem as Israel's capital

So, ok. Is this a punch in the eye for the Muslim world? Is he trying to draw Muslim ire?

More hate, more attacks and then he gets to use the nukes?

If other countries don't move their embassies, won't Jerusalem be kind of lonely?

Muslim countries will soon begin to recognize East Jerusalem as the capital of Palestine. Hmm
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#304337 - 12/10/17 12:44 AM Re: Trump Forum [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Trump WANTS the backlash. He WANTS attacks. He WANTS to be a "war time" President because it strokes his ego. And it distracts from Russia. Deep thought is not required. I doubt he thinks about anything (but sleights) for more than 15 minutes. No strategy involved. Evangelicals love it. He wants love.

For now on, men with a small penis can no longer run for President. crazy

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#304338 - 12/10/17 12:45 AM Re: Trump Forum [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
F*$k Alan Dershowitz. He's been in the bag for Trump for a year. I don't get it. He's been prostituting himself all over the airwaves, and his legal analysis is specious. He's as wrong about this as a half-dozen other opinions he's voiced lately. I recognize that he's Jewish, but that doesn't excuse abandoning all principles.

Bow

Recognizing Jerusalem as the Jewish State capital is all about Armageddon and The Second Coming. Seriously. Hmm
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#304343 - 12/10/17 05:08 AM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
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Yup, Gelicles want that real estate and they intend to convert all who live there, too.
Those who refuse, die.
Hey, this ain't ME telling you, it's their own sermons.
They don't make a secret of it.
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#304344 - 12/10/17 12:38 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
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Israel unilaterally declared sovereignty when they got solid assurances Pres Truman would recognize the new state as soon as it declared, thus circumventing UN protocols and thus almost assuredly ending any hope of a 2-state solution as proposed by the LoN and UN.

My rebuttal is for Palestine to declare sovereignty and lay claim to eastern Jerusalem as its capitol as well as set the boundaries. At this moment I suspect every Muslim country may recognize Palestine as a sovereign state.

If it is good for Israel, certainly it must be good for Palestine.
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