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#304353 - 12/10/17 11:15 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
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Of course, this is an act of Trump, not of Israel. Let's wait and see what exactly Israel does with it. They may do nothing because they like the way things are now. That's the interesting problem: If you go for the single-state solution all the Palestinians become Israeli citizens and get to vote. Israeli politics changes dramatically.

If you go for the two-state solution, all the settlements are in the Palestinian state. They might want to move back to Israel.

If they do something more radical, like take the west bank and kick all the Palestinians out, the UN comes in to enforce their old borders and kicks THEM out.

That's why I think they will do nothing.

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#304432 - 12/13/17 09:15 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
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Omarosa Manigault throws tantrum, has to be escorted from White House

Omarosa Manigault throws tantrum, has to be escorted from White House after chief of staff fires her

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Manigault Newman “acted very vulgar and cursed a lot and said she helped elect President Trump,” sources told American Urban Radio Networks’ April Ryan.

“And she said, ‘I brought the black vote.’ General Kelly said, ‘no, you did not. It's not there,’” Ryan told CNN.

Manigault Newman then tried to enter the residence area of the White House and had to be escorted from the building, Ryan said.


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#304497 - 12/17/17 10:05 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
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A lot of people wonder what Putin's interest in Donald Trump is. We know what Trump's interest in Putin is - to get a Trump Tower, Moscow.

Today, a reichwing nut posted an article on a site that I frequent, quoted it, but not paste the link. I quickly found the quote to be from Breitbart. No wonder he was too cowardly to post the link.

Turns out, the Breitbart story came from Sputnik news.

The story? It was about Sweden having to raise their retirement age in response to Muslim immigration because of the historically high fertility rate rate of the Muslim population.

First of all, Rightwingers shouldn't be making posts about issues they don’t understand, in countries that don’t affect them. Surely that couldn’t have anything to do with racism/islamaphobia/xenophobia, could it?

Social Affairs Minister Annika Strandhäll and Financial Markets Minister Per Bolund said in a statement:

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"We are reforming the Swedish pension system in order to raise pensions and increase security for both today's and future pensioner."


The point I'm trying to make: Putin hates Muslims because of what happened in Chechnya. Putin is a CONservative homophobic, racist, islamaphobe, and xenophobe, and he saw a kindred spirit in Donald J Trump.

Plus the fact that Hillary Clinton called Putin out on the 2012 Russian election shenanigans.
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#304501 - 12/18/17 04:30 AM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
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Putin seems to be a pretty savvy politician. I don't think he sees a kindred spirit in Trump at all. I think he sees a weak ignorant buffoon and he helped him because he'd rather see a weak ignorant buffoon leading the US rather than a savvy politician like himself.
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#304502 - 12/18/17 05:04 AM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
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Greger, spot on as always.
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#304508 - 12/18/17 06:31 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
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Given the way that Trump has been filling his pockets with even more to come from the new "tax Cuts for the Middle Class" I would think that he had enough money to pay back the Russian Mafia so, perhaps, he will be off the hook?

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#304532 - 12/20/17 09:16 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
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I think Trump's presidency, and the Republican Congress, has been absolutely inspiring! Huge number of Democratic Challengers - TRMS.
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#304533 - 12/20/17 10:05 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: jgw]
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I would think that he had enough money to pay back the Russian Mafia so, perhaps, he will be off the hook?

LOL

I think that is the beauty of the "hook". Once snagged you can't wiggle free.

He could resign or flee to Russia (after he rescinds the Magnitsky Act and he sets up accounts to launder his money to Russia), otherwise he is here to sell America to Russia.
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#304537 - 12/21/17 01:35 AM Re: Trump Forum [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Greger, spot on as always.

Yup. smile
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#304718 - 12/30/17 04:21 PM Re: Trump Forum [Re: pdx rick]
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...from the NYT interview that Donald Trump gave on Thursday:

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'I saved coal.'

'I was treated better than anyone in the history of China.’

'I did things that Ronald Reagan couldn’t do.’

‘there’s been no collusion, absolutely no collusion, everyone agrees there’s no collusion.’ (sixteen times)

‘I have absolute right to control the Justice Department.'

‘I know more than the greatest CPA.’

--Donald Trump

These are obviously cartoonishly ridiculous statements. At no point can this kind of babbling be assuring to us Americans.
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