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#304951 - 01/08/18 10:05 PM Re: "Moron...Man-Child...Trump" [Re: matthew]
jgw Offline
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A kindly thought. The author, Michael Wolff, is well known in the reporter field. The likelyhood that he has recordings of every conversation is VERY good! My own suspicion is that he is probably waiting for the right time to release or sell said recordings. If they ever became public it would, I suspect, REALLY stir the pot?

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#304966 - 01/09/18 07:10 AM Re: "Moron...Man-Child...Trump" [Re: matthew]
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I doubt that he made anything up. Why would he if he's sitting there on that couch and carefully making contemporaneous notes. He could have stayed home and made things up. People may have told him things that were embellishments, but he's just reporting what they said. If he actually recorded it, say with a pen recorder, all the better, I assume he's quite used to people telling him things and then denying it later.

It's not really his job to discover if everything they said is true. Just like reporters tell us what Sarah Huckabee Sanders said and don't even try to verify any of it.

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#304968 - 01/09/18 05:33 PM Re: "Moron...Man-Child...Trump" [Re: pondering_it_all]
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I've had a chance to read an extensive excerpt of Michael Wolff's book, and it doesn't matter if it's made up - it's very readable, and virtually everything I've read so far just amplifies what everyone can see on a daily basis. It's going to be best seller for a long time.

We shouldn't, however, let it be a distraction from the real work, and real danger, ahead. Trump occupies the White House, and as long as that is the case, the nation is at risk from an obviously unstable individual. The GOP is running amok, executive departments are being run by incompetent ideologues bent in destroying them, and the courts are being packed with incompetence. With a lazy cat in the White House, the rats are in charge. God help us.
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#304969 - 01/09/18 07:40 PM Re: "Moron...Man-Child...Trump" [Re: matthew]
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Wolff even said in a recent interview, that there is nothing important in the book that was not already public knowledge. He also said everybody in the White House has their own press representative, and they spend all day talking to the press. So it's no wonder the place leaks like a sieve! Everybody has a different view of what's going on and what's important, so one way or another, there are no secrets. I think maybe quite a few of them are in "career saving" mode as well, so they want things released so later they look like they were not crooks. I bet they also all have lawyers!

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#304970 - 01/09/18 09:41 PM Re: "Moron...Man-Child...Trump" [Re: matthew]
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There is so much reading to do! First Fire and Fury, and now 312 pages of Fusion GPS transcripts. Good thing I'm more literate than the President!
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#304972 - 01/09/18 10:31 PM Re: "Moron...Man-Child...Trump" [Re: NW Ponderer]
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What I find most astonishing about Wolff's book is that some people seem to be surprised by the revelations contained within. Wasn’t that all obvious knowledge for anyone who has been paying the least smidgin of attention to the Trump circus for the past several years?

just a wonderin......

And I also hope Democratic voters will actually make to the polls this fall and cast their ballots. If they cannot manage to get off or their rears for a few minutes and actually vote, then they will have no right to complain about the mess we find our nation in.
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#304987 - 01/11/18 01:54 AM Re: "Moron...Man-Child...Trump" [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
...the courts are being packed with incompetence.

That is, I think, the most dangerous aspect of this sorry spectacle.

It's the first thing Hitler did to solidify his regime.
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#304989 - 01/11/18 02:30 AM Re: "Moron...Man-Child...Trump" [Re: Ken Condon]
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Originally Posted By: Ken Condon

And I also hope Democratic voters will actually make to the polls this fall and cast their ballots. If they cannot manage to get off or their rears for a few minutes and actually vote, then they will have no right to complain about the mess we find our nation in.


Damn straight.
On a couple of other political forums I belong to, and on my Facebook page, I told all my Dem/lib friends if they don't bother voting in the mid-terms, I'll slap the tar out of them first time they start whining.

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#304996 - 01/11/18 08:15 AM Re: "Moron...Man-Child...Trump" [Re: matthew]
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Originally Posted By: matthew
Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
...the courts are being packed with incompetence.

That is, I think, the most dangerous aspect of this sorry spectacle.

It's the first thing Hitler did to solidify his regime.
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I've been a lawyer for well over 30 years, and I've watched in person the decay of judicial process. The last trial proceeding I was involved in neither the prosecutor nor the judge knew what their local rules said, nor what constituted a "criminal charge" as required by the Constitution - seriously "law school 101" stuff. I was gobsmacked, and thoroughly pissed. Kangaroo court would insult kangaroos. That judge then got elected to the Superior Court. I expect he's now up for a lifetime federal appointment...
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#305031 - 01/12/18 05:50 PM Re: "Moron...Man-Child...Trump" [Re: NW Ponderer]
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I just realized something. Remember how, in the 80s, Trump used to call reporters and pretended that he was Trump's publicist, and used the fake name, John Barron?

So, do you suppose he named his son after his fake publicist persona? That'd be weird.
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