Okay, I have a little time and I'm on my computer, which allows me to type faster and cut and paste to make my points clearer. Tim
, I try to give the benefit of the doubt whenever I can, but I'm having difficulty in this instance, as the various (I'm loathe to say bigoted, but uninformed is certainly true) comments are offensive in the extreme. I get the feeling that you haven't done any actual inquiry into the facts of immigration at all, but are, like Trump, shooting from the hip (or lip) without reference to reality, but merely "Truthiness".
To be specific:
Trump has offered to legalize 1.8 million people, it is the Dems who are stopping it from happening.
No, really it is not. The DACA crisis was created
by Trump, deliberately. Republicans have prevented codifying immigration reform for decades
. Now, the "Offer" is to give them everything they want (and more) to get back
what Trump took away. That is a common technique for the Mob - like paying "insurance" to protect your business from being burned down by the "insurer". You know, a RACKET.
they knew that the Dems were lying through their teeth
A factless assertion.
Most immigrants today add nothing to the modern society. They do not learn the language, they do not integrate into society and they tend to segregate themselves. This behavior leads to no go zones, gangs and violence. Don't believe me? Try walking around at night in little Havana in Miami and see how you fare.
I started a thread recently that refutes every element of this vicious slander. Not a single point is accurate.
1) Ten Ways Immigrants Help Build and Strengthen Our Economy: "Below is our top 10 list for ways immigrants help to grow the American economy. Immigrants start businesses
. According to the Small Business Administration, immigrants are 30 percent more likely to start a business in the United States than non-immigrants
, and 18 percent of all small business owners in the United States are immigrants. Immigrant-owned businesses create jobs for American workers
. According to the Fiscal Policy Institute, small businesses owned by immigrants employed an estimated 4.7 million people in 2007, and according to the latest estimates, these small businesses generated more than $776 billion annually. Immigrants are also more likely to create their own jobs
. According the U.S. Department of Labor, 7.5 percent of the foreign born are self-employed compared to 6.6 percent among the native-born. Immigrants develop cutting-edge technologies and companies
. According to the National Venture Capital Association, immigrants have started 25 percent of public U.S. companies that were backed by venture capital investors. This list includes Google, eBay, Yahoo!, Sun Microsystems, and Intel. Immigrants are our engineers, scientists, and innovators
. According to the Census Bureau, despite making up only 16 percent of the resident population holding a bachelor’s degree or higher, immigrants represent 33 percent of engineers, 27 percent of mathematicians, statisticians, and computer scientist, and 24 percent of physical scientists. Additionally, according to the Partnership for a New American Economy, in 2011, foreign-born inventors were credited with contributing to more than 75 percent of patents issued to the top 10 patent-producing universities. Immigration boosts earnings for American workers
. Increased immigration to the United States has increased the earnings of Americans with more than a high school degree. Between 1990 and 2004, increased immigration was correlated with increasing earnings of Americans by 0.7 percent and is expected to contribute to an increase of 1.8 percent over the long-term, according to a study by the University of California at Davis. Immigrants boost demand for local consumer goods
. The Immigration Policy Center estimates that the purchasing power of Latinos and Asians, many of whom are immigrants, alone will reach $1.5 trillion and $775 billion, respectively, by 2015. Immigration reform legislation like the DREAM Act reduces the deficit
. According to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, under the 2010 House-passed version of the DREAM Act, the federal deficit would be reduced by $2.2 billion over ten years because of increased tax revenues. Comprehensive immigration reform would create jobs
. Comprehensive immigration reform could support and create up to 900,000 new jobs within three years of reform from the increase in consumer spending, according to the Center for American Progress. Comprehensive immigration reform would increase America’s GDP
.The nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office found that even under low investment assumptions, comprehensive immigration reform would increase GDP by between 0.8 percent and 1.3 percent from 2012 to 2016."From the U.S. Department of Treasury website (2012)
2) "According to a study by the Pew Research Center, 92% of second-generation Latino immigrants asked said they spoke English “very well.” And it’s not only the children of immigrants who are learning English; according to data collected in 2012 by the U.S. Census, 44% of foreign-born people aged five and older reported speaking English either exclusively or very well.
So why are today’s immigrants adopting the majority language of the U.S. so readily?There are a lot of possible explanations, but one likely contributor is the value placed on learning English in these communities. English is seen by virtually all immigrants as a key to success for both immigrants and their children, according to the same Pew study." Do immigrants to the U.S. learn English faster nowadays?
I know, facts. It's hard, Tim
, but try doing a little research before you post misinformation. Unless, of course, you did....
I really do sympathize, but they have overrun the country to the point where they have to be forced out.
That's just pure BS. "Broken down by immigration status, the foreign-born population includes 20.7 million naturalized U.S. citizens and 22.6 million noncitizens. Of the noncitizens, approximately 13.1 million are lawful permanent residents, 11.1 million* are unauthorized migrants, and 1.7 million hold temporary visas." In a country of 330 million 13% of the population is foreign born and 3% are undocumented. That hardly constitutes being "overrun" unless you just mean "not like me."
I'm not saying you're a racist bigot, MaR
, just that you use the arguments of one.