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#305269 - 01/25/18 04:15 AM Re: Happy Shutdown Day [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
I see some posts here and there complaining about DACA participants who have been here for years and done nothing to obtain a green card or citizenship. I am pretty sure they couldn't! I don't think there is any mechanism for somebody under 18 to obtain a green card once they are already here.

Now conservatives are going to raise a stink about amnesty...

Conservatives are just mean, nasty people. Wait 'til 2040 when they truly become a minority - if they're even still alive, being so old already and all. coffee
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#305270 - 01/25/18 04:58 AM Re: Happy Shutdown Day [Re: Ma_Republican]
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By 2040, if they are still alive, the people taking care of them in the nursing home are mostly going to be the very people they want to deport now! Because their kids or grandkids are certainly not going to do it.

Who's going to change Great Grandpa McConnell's diaper this time?

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#305271 - 01/25/18 06:51 AM Re: Happy Shutdown Day [Re: Ma_Republican]
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If for no other reason than simple planning, you might want to show some kindness toward these people. Ben Gay in the Depends probably burns pretty good.
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#305272 - 01/25/18 06:55 AM Re: Happy Shutdown Day [Re: Ma_Republican]
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Originally Posted By: Ma_Republican
So, the question becomes, can the Dems pull a Clinton and get America to blame the Republicans for shutting the government down? Because, just as before, it will be the Dems who shut it down. I just hope it stays shutdown, like for months and months!

Have a great day!

Tim


a) The republicans control the legislative agenda
b) Democrats cannot bring bills to debate or to a vote
c) Republicans set up a timeline to end DACA
d) Republicans stopped funding CHIP
e) Republicans did not submit a budget in early 2017
f) Republicans have been insisting on funding a government via Continuing Resolutions for years and years
g) Republicans know about the 60 vote threshold on CR bills
h) Republicans knew that the democrats wanted a resolution on CHIP and DACA in return for their vote for this CR.
i) They knew about h) for weeks/months before this vote in December
j) For weeks/months they never brought up a bill to the floor for CHIP
k) For weeks/months they never brought up a bill to the floor for DACA

And we're supposed to listen to people saying that this was a Schumer shutdown?
Mitch McConnell has now pledged that DACA would finally get a vote, and CHIP is funded, for the time being, for a short little while.
If he reneges on DACA, or lets CHIP run out of money again, are we supposed to ignore that this November?

Make America Great Again?

When did America use to be great?
When was America great? When conservatives and liberals could fight like cats and dogs, but at the end of the day sit down and hammer out something that served the best interests of the MOST Americans...COUNTRY OVER PARTY.
The fighting like cats and dogs was just mostly entertainment, and then somewhere along the way some people started thinking it was okay to start seriously suggesting that liberals do not love their country.
I will never forgive those people. They have done more damage to America than the Communists could ever dream of doing.

And not only will I never forgive them, I vow that, whenever and wherever possible, I will make them regret their suggestion by any means necessary.
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#305473 - 02/04/18 11:40 AM Re: Happy Shutdown Day [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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No progress on 'Dreamers' as another U.S. shutdown looms.

Nothing, absolutely nothing, has changed since the shutdown. There has been no bargaining, there have been no new proposals, and even the majority of Republicans think Trump's "framework" is unworkable. Mitch McConnell lied brazenly on the Senate floor, and Paul Ryan never intended to address the issue (because he's a milquetoast). Legislating is hard, so I won't do it!
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#305513 - 02/06/18 05:44 PM Re: Happy Shutdown Day [Re: Ma_Republican]
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Dear Ma_Republican:
My wife Karen and I will be at your doorstep just as soon as we sell our home that we can't pay the mortgage on. My one income isn't enough to support our whole family and the 2600/mo mortgage and car payments plus health insurance for our disabled son. (which, by the way, is equal to some mortgages)

If the government stays shut down for "months and months and months" as you dream of, my wife's VA disability pension and compensation will cease, and we will be foreclosed on.
I hope your house is handicap accessible.

Oh, by the way, she might be having a few disabled veteran friends over too, and they might have questions for you, too.

Hope you don't mind lots of questions!
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#305523 - 02/07/18 01:43 PM Re: Happy Shutdown Day [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Trump Threatened a Shutdown Over Immigration. But It Has Nothing to Do With Immigration - TIME. But clearly, it's all the Dem's fault, right Tim?
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