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#305564 - 02/12/18 05:27 AM Re: Round Table for January, 2018 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Republican Party Nominates The Former Head Of The American Nazi Party For Congress
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#305566 - 02/12/18 09:18 PM Re: Round Table for January, 2018 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Well, there's this...
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In November, Jones will face either Representative Dan Lipinski or Lipinskiís Democratic primary challenger, Marie Newman. But the district is heavily blue and Democrats have held the seat since 1975, so, luckily, Jones has little chance of winning.


So this guy is basically just an embarrassment even to his own party.
Makes me think of that old adage "when you lie down with dogs you get up with fleas"
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#305568 - 02/13/18 06:34 AM Re: Round Table for January, 2018 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Apparently there are about 30 Trump White House staff who still don't have full security clearances! I thought Mueller would indict them one or two at a time but it looks like they could all get "Portered" and have to resign, for various reasons. A lot of the White House support for Porter is probably because so many others on staff have similar problems.

This is what happens when you elect somebody who does not know the meaning of the word "ethics".

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#305569 - 02/13/18 12:42 PM Re: Round Table for January, 2018 [Re: Greger]
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Originally Posted By: Greger
Makes me think of that old adage "when you lie down with dogs you get up with fleas"
Except in this case it's, "When you lie down with fleas, you wake up with more fleas." All fleas, all the time.
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#305570 - 02/13/18 02:56 PM Re: Round Table for January, 2018 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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this security clearance thing is really not a thing for the administration, just everyone on the outside. they could simply say for all of those undergoing clearance investigation, you have clearance by decree of Mr Trump as president. I mean ... Mr trump doesn't care what security problems any of these folks have as long as they are loyal to and defend Mr Trump.
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#305571 - 02/13/18 08:05 PM Re: Round Table for January, 2018 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Yes, apparently agents of foreign governments are welcome in the White House staff. But then again, I guess they are blackmail-proof because we assume they all are scumbags. There is nothing that could be made public that would lower our opinion of them.

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#305573 - 02/14/18 03:01 AM Re: Round Table for January, 2018 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Occam's Razor: the White House is peopled by foreign agents. It is the simplest explanation.
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#305575 - 02/14/18 12:47 PM Re: Round Table for January, 2018 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
This is what happens when you elect somebody who does not know the meaning of the word "ethics".

From the Trump Book of #WINNING:
Ethics - noun
1) an obscure word for all the obstacles that get in the way of making money bigly;
2) a word that losers use to make themselves feel superior when they are SAD that I am #WINNING!;
3) a general term for what makes people poosies.
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#305580 - 02/15/18 09:04 PM Re: Round Table for January, 2018 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Embrace the horror.
If the Democrats sweep both chambers of Congress, Chuck and Nancy will perpetrate The Great Capitulation and Normalization of President Trump as hero to Democrats, as Trump himself mounts the podium to declare,
"The American people have spoken. Republicans are LOSERS."

To not do so would cost Mr. Trump his sanity. He would not be able to abide being castigated by a Democratic Party majority and seeing as how Chuck and Nancy are damn near as devoid of principles as Trump, it's the ultimate pragmatic establishment Democrat solution for all interested parties, except of course anyone who detests Trump for his lack of principles.

But since when did that matter to Chuck and Nancy, or Debbie Wasserman Schultz, or anyone in the establishment Dems?
Look what they did to someone who DID have some principles.



Therefore, it wouldn't surprise me if Trump were to flip on gun control, but not till after November, and only if Democrats sweep both chambers of Congress in a stunning upset.

PS: Mind you, I am not saying he will succeed with this idea, only that he's going to attempt doing it.
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#305585 - 02/16/18 05:00 AM Re: Round Table for January, 2018 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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They supported the Democrat they thought could win. Bernie certainly couldn't. If he had won the primary, Republicans would have made mincemeat of him. He was their favorite Democrat because he would be so damned easy to beat.

And saying the Republicans and Democrats are all alike is simply a lie. After everything Trump has done, and everything Obama managed to do despite Congress blocking his every move, it should be obvious to everyone that Republicans and Democrats are fundamentally different.

The Democratic Party may not be Socialist, but they are VERY different from conservatives on almost every issue.

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