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#306182 - 03/30/18 10:40 AM Woman gets 5 years for illegally voting in 2016 presidential election
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A Texas woman was sentenced to five years in prison this week following her conviction for illegally voting in the 2016 presidential election.

Crystal Mason, 43, of Tarrant County, Texas, is a convicted felon for tax fraud and voted while still on supervised release, the Dallas Morning News reported.

Texas law prohibits felons from voting until their full sentence, including supervised release, is served.

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How are voting rights legally allowed to be taken-away in instances of convicted of a felony? In doing so, states remove voting as a right and make it a privilege. There ought to be a law against that. mad
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#306184 - 03/30/18 02:06 PM Re: Woman gets 5 years for illegally voting in 2016 presidential election [Re: pdx rick]
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You only need to see her picture to understand. This is Texas.
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#306195 - 03/30/18 07:40 PM Re: Woman gets 5 years for illegally voting in 2016 presidential election [Re: pdx rick]
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That case is a bit sketchy: Texas law says that anybody who knowingly votes when they are still on probation is guilty. She was on probation and did vote, but there is zero proof she knew she couldn't. She asks: "Why would I do that? What do I gain by voting?"

Seems her mother demanded she go and vote, but she was not on the registration rolls so they gave her a provisional ballot that was later tossed, so her illegal vote was not even counted. Actually, I think mom should get prison time, not the daughter. The "crime" was her idea!

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#306202 - 03/31/18 07:23 PM Re: Woman gets 5 years for illegally voting in 2016 presidential election [Re: pdx rick]
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I think there are legitimate issues for appeal. There is certainly a disparity in sentencing (again, this is Texas). I think the State's argument will be "she knew she was on probation". "Mason's probation officer also told the court he had not advised her she was ineligible to vote." BBC.

The level of punishment meted out by Texas is ludicrous. The article above noted that
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This is not the first case of a voter fraud conviction in Texas.

Rosa Maria Ortega, 37, an immigrant with a green card, was convicted of voting illegally in the 2012 presidential election and the 2014 Republican primary.

She was sentenced a year ago to eight years in prison, and to be deported afterwards.


Edited by NW Ponderer (03/31/18 08:23 PM)
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#306211 - 04/01/18 07:56 AM Re: Woman gets 5 years for illegally voting in 2016 presidential election [Re: pdx rick]
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I think the people who do this are not intending to commit a crime. They are simply ignorant. I think we should require every poll worker to ask if they are a citizen before giving them a ballot, as well as mentioning other local reasons they might not be entitled to vote. If they lie, and claim citizenship and non-parole, etc. THEN charge them with the crime. The current system of all these PSAs telling people to vote is like entrapment.

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