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#306537 - 04/30/18 10:09 PM Re: North/South Korea [Re: pdx rick]
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Based on the public statements of Bolton, Sec Pompeo, and Mr Trump, none of them understand what Kim wants, in my tainted opinion. I believe it is nonsensical to think Kim would after putting his country through the most severe regimen possible to acquire nuclear weapons simply give them up because Mr Trump is a bully.

This is very similar to the Iran deal. Conservatives hate the deal because they thought the only deal was for Iran to surrender to Israel. These folks are delusional.
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#306539 - 05/01/18 12:20 AM Re: North/South Korea [Re: rporter314]
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Originally Posted By: rporter314
Based on the public statements of Bolton, Sec Pompeo, and Mr Trump, none of them understand what Kim wants...

Yet Fatass is claiming full credit for a united Korean peninsula. Hmm , coffee
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#306540 - 05/01/18 03:52 AM Re: North/South Korea [Re: pdx rick]
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Fatass has kind of made himself irrelevant. The Korea's don't need him or his belligerent foriegn policy to sign a peace treaty and open trade between the North and South. China will quickly follow suit and the US will be left looking like a third wheel.
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#306542 - 05/01/18 07:29 AM Re: North/South Korea [Re: pdx rick]
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Just like Iran does not need the US to remain in the nuke deal: They have all their money back that we were holding, and they can buy anything they like from the rest of the world who WILL stay in the deal. Trump has no bargaining position. As far as Iran is concerned he can go pound sand. Nobody else is going to join Trump in reinstating sanctions, not only because Iran has met all their obligations but also just to throw it in Trump's face.

I suspect he has figured that out, so that's why he blustering about going to war with them.

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#306543 - 05/01/18 10:35 AM Re: North/South Korea [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
I suspect he has figured that out, so that's why he blustering about going to war with them.

John Bolton is blustering to go to war with them. coffee
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#306548 - 05/01/18 06:36 PM Re: North/South Korea [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
I suspect he has figured that out, so that's why he blustering about going to war with them.

John Bolton is blustering to go to war with them. coffee


AND BOLTON IS ALREADY 1-0, because he helped steer us into war with Iraq. Now he wants to be two for zero, and Trump is even more of an empty vessel than George Dubya Bush was.
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#306565 - 05/02/18 07:27 PM Re: North/South Korea [Re: pdx rick]
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What the north wants is very simple. They want to be a recognized nuclear power. If you listen closely to the talk, its all about getting rid of the north's nuclear PLAN. This is not the same as getting rid of their bombs and missiles. It will be interesting to see what the Jackass does. I suspect he will buy it, and recognize North Korea as a nuclear power. Then, again, they might go the Israeli way and just let them keep their bombs and missiles if they will just shut up about it.

Time, of course, will tell..................

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