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#306544 - 05/01/18 02:32 PM Round Table for May, 2018
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May is the month of Spring in the Northern Hemisphere. May is also a verb which expresses "possibility", as in, "it may be." Coincidence? I think not.

I had a great-great Aunt May. She had a large wardrobe that was inherited from her parents. In it we found a treasure-trove of family heirlooms, including what had always been described as "the Gold Rush letters" - what we had always thought was apocryphal correspondence between my great-great-great-great grandfather and his wife when he adventured West in search of treasure during the 1850 Gold Rush to California. Instead, they became a touchstone for my family's quest for our roots.

From the reading of those letters, a family project germinated. My siblings and I have embarked upon a visceral adventure to retrace the course of the trail embarked upon to rediscover our family roots. It is an illuminating adventure, full of twists, turns, surprises and truths. It was a similar quest of discovery that led Alex Haley to trace the origins of his family lore and that resulted in his seminal novel, . (The most recent iteration of a film adaptation of that novel was launched by the History Channel on Memorial Day - which also occurs in May.)

"Roots" form an apt metaphor for many of our human experiences and endeavors. The first questing root of a plant is called a "radicle". Like our forebears who took the radical step to leave their homes as pioneers and explorers, the radicle seeks to establish a path for nutrients and stability for the growth and propagation of its family. In 1880 Charles Darwin published a book about plants he had studied, The Power of Movement in Plants. The metaphorical possibilities inherent in that title are legion. One such metaphor was the inspiration for the band, "The Roots", the collaborations of Ahmir "Questlove" Thompson and Tariq "Black Thought" Trotter. Ironically, their breakthrough album was Things Fall Apart, a title that came from a novel written by Nigerian author Chinua Achebe. . In many ways Chinua Achebe's novel is the mirror image of Alex Haley's, exploring the impact of colonizing Europeans on Africa, rather than the experience of Africans in colonial America. [Spoiler: whether the stone hits the pitcher, or the pitcher hits the stone, it's going to be bad for the pitcher.]


Welcome to the Round Table for May 2018.

I invite you to explore your "May Be"s. May your Spring prove fruitful.

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#306557 - 05/02/18 03:48 AM Re: Round Table for May, 2018 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Hopefully, you don't have uncaught serial killers in your family tree, NW_P. coffee
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#306562 - 05/02/18 06:42 PM Re: Round Table for May, 2018 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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I wonder why students continue to let prom be a school-controlled event? Lots of seniors are 18, so they could sell tickets, rent venues, hire bands, provide their own security, etc. Then they could tell school administrators they are not welcome. I keep reading about heavy-handed behavior on the part of school administrators. Why not make it a private non-school event?

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#306575 - 05/03/18 04:50 AM Re: Round Table for May, 2018 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Schadenfreude, thy name is Spencer ROTFMOL

Richard Spencer Was Supposed to Lead the Alt-Right to Victory. Now He’s Begging for Money.

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#306577 - 05/03/18 06:46 AM Re: Round Table for May, 2018 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Nazis should all be hiding in basements like in the good old days. Or committing suicide in bunkers like their hero.

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#306667 - 05/08/18 10:50 PM Re: Round Table for May, 2018 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Latest evidence of "Trump Worship Syndrome": Orin Hatch says McCain's statement that Trump is not allowed at his funeral is ridiculous. Trump is the guy who claimed McCain was not a war hero because he was captured and tortured for years by North Vietnam. Hatch backed off today, but imagine the gall to comment on somebody else's funeral guest list!

Trump loyalty over Party, Country, and now even Common Decency. Orin needs to retire.

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#306668 - 05/09/18 01:19 AM Re: Round Table for May, 2018 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Latest evidence of "Trump Worship Syndrome": Orin Hatch says McCain's statement that Trump is not allowed at his funeral is ridiculous. Trump is the guy who claimed McCain was not a war hero because he was captured and tortured for years by North Vietnam. Hatch backed off today, but imagine the gall to comment on somebody else's funeral guest list!

Trump loyalty over Party, Country, and now even Common Decency. Orin needs to retire.


Tough beans Hatch...a dying man gets to choose who comes to their funeral. You do NOT, and you have neither the right nor the invitation to comment on it.
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#306690 - 05/10/18 04:13 AM Re: Round Table for May, 2018 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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If you didn't receive Michael Cohen's Memo about MAGA being replaced by "Pay to Play" - you're probably not rich enough.

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#306769 - 05/18/18 10:17 AM Re: Round Table for May, 2018 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Merck Sharp & Dohme has a 100% effective Ebola vaccine! They did a real clinical trial in Guinea with over 11,000 people living around Ebola patients and not a single vaccinated patient got it. After early findings they opened the trial up and gave it to the control group, too. Clinical trials are very rarely 100% effective.

Science marches on.

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#306780 - 05/20/18 12:38 AM Re: Round Table for May, 2018 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Holy cr@p! Big story about Trump Junior visiting the Gulf State Arabs before the election to talk about money and social media manipulation with bots. EVERYBODY is going to prison for one thing or another. With all of these slam-dunk convictions Mueller has his choice of criminals to flip.

Also it looks like the Qatar money folks who wanted to go through Bannon had to find a new channel after he got fired. That's when they approached Kushner. Then the Steele dossier came out and they got scared so they backed out. Trump went all "TERRORISTS!" on them and the other Arabs blockaded them. Then they decided to accept the shakedown invest in Kushner's building and now Trump is all "Qatar is our buddy" again. Talk about blatant bribery.

I think that's almost the last shoe dropping. Apparently everything in the Steele dossier beside the pee party has been corroborated now. And the pee party is just in there for comic relief. rolleyes

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#306789 - 05/20/18 05:24 PM Re: Round Table for May, 2018 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Holy cr@p! Big story about Trump Junior visiting the Gulf State Arabs before the election to talk about money and social media manipulation with bots. EVERYBODY is going to prison for one thing or another. With all of these slam-dunk convictions Mueller has his choice of criminals to flip.

Also it looks like the Qatar money folks who wanted to go through Bannon had to find a new channel after he got fired. That's when they approached Kushner. Then the Steele dossier came out and they got scared so they backed out. Trump went all "TERRORISTS!" on them and the other Arabs blockaded them. Then they decided to accept the shakedown invest in Kushner's building and now Trump is all "Qatar is our buddy" again. Talk about blatant bribery.

I think that's almost the last shoe dropping. Apparently everything in the Steele dossier beside the pee party has been corroborated now. And the pee party is just in there for comic relief. rolleyes

***piffle***

Nobody is going to jail or prion. Fatasss will pardon everybody, including himself. The only way to get rid of Fatass is to 25th him or impeach with conviction.

Ghouliani said it himself: You can't indict a sitting President. shocked

We're stuck with this assclown and his corrupt, bribery, "Pay for Play" criminal ways. . mad

sidebar: Has W or Cheney ever been held accountable for their war crimes? No. rolleyes
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#306790 - 05/20/18 05:30 PM Re: Round Table for May, 2018 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Saturday, May 18, 2018 Cold Open ala Sopranos final scene:

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#306810 - 05/22/18 12:17 AM Re: Round Table for May, 2018 [Re: pdx rick]
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We are really reaching the point of complete authoritarianism, and the Border Patrol is being used as the SS. I am not exaggerating. Border Patrol agent questions two U.S. citizens for speaking Spanish in Montana gas station - USA Today. Read this, then think about this for a minute.

The Border Patrol is asserting that they have authority to detain anyone within 100 miles of a border, without evidence of entry, nor any suspicion thereof. Roughly 2/3 of the US population lives within 100 miles of the border. Look at the following map: . All of Florida, Maine, Vermont, Michigan, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Rhode Island - Washington D.C., for crying out loud. Think of a major city in the United States. New York, Los Angeles, Boston, Philadelphia, Baltimore, Chicago, Cleveland - Hell, AKRON, OHIO! Raleigh, North Carolina. Do you think the Citizens of these States and cities have any idea that the United States Border Patrol is asserting that it has the authority to arbitrarily set up checkpoints in New York City, Los Angeles or Chicago, or Mobile, Alabama?? Yet, they are.
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#306814 - 05/22/18 03:10 AM Re: Round Table for May, 2018 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Maybe we all need to carry our identity papers passports around at all times?

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#306815 - 05/22/18 03:58 AM Re: Round Table for May, 2018 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Maybe we all need to carry our identity papers passports around at all times?

Mine is expired. I wonder what country I'll be deported to. coffee
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#306819 - 05/22/18 08:57 AM Re: Round Table for May, 2018 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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I hear they have some nice places in Poland....

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#306836 - 05/27/18 07:11 PM Re: Round Table for May, 2018 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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You know what's a huge problem? There was a poll and more than half of Republicans and about 20 percent of Democrats believe that millions of illegal votes were cast in 2016. A lot of them bring up the fact that their was an official investigation of "the problem", completely ignoring the other facts that the commission fell apart when the principle investigator had to testify in court that it was all BS.

It also completely ignores the way voting works: To vote you have to be on the voter rolls so the polling place knows you are legit in advance of you showing up. Anyone not on the list would have to be a great con artist to even get a provisional ballot, with lots of identity checking and id shown. Then the election workers would investigate to be sure you were entitled to that provisional ballot. And for what? What could you get for voting illegally? Jury duty!

It too ignores the fact that illegal aliens do their very best to hide from the government: They are scared rabbits! They would be insane to tell the government who they are and where they live just so they could vote. And what do they get out of it? They get picked up by ICE and deported!

With millions of people here, there are bound to be a few crazy or evil enough to do it. I'm sure there are people who eat their murder victims, too. But I bet there are more cannibals than there are illegal aliens who vote. All the cases I have heard of involve citizen probationers who thought their voting rights had been restored, or confused old people who voted by mail and then forgot and voted again at the polls. The number of people who intentionally voted twice you can count on one hand.

So why do so many people believe it? It's like finding out that millions of people believe in the Tooth Fairy. Has America gone collectively insane? Is this what happens when you have a Gaslighter-In-Chief in the White House?

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#306839 - 05/28/18 07:02 AM Re: Round Table for May, 2018 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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I don't mean to brag, I don't mean to boast, but I'm like hot butter on breakfast toast. laugh

I bagged a HUGE Fortune 500 CEO conservative, ignorant racist and bigot. It's the real deal. I swear-to-God on my own life. Bow

His public persona is 100% opposite of his private persona.

I'm deciding now how I should proceed. 60 Minutes perhaps? Ronan Farrow? smile
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#306840 - 05/28/18 08:18 AM Re: Round Table for May, 2018 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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I hear they have some nice places in Poland....

I'd prefer Czechoslovakia actually. smile
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#306841 - 05/28/18 01:25 PM Re: Round Table for May, 2018 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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No such place nono

LOL
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#306843 - 05/28/18 03:43 PM Re: Round Table for May, 2018 [Re: Ujest Shurly]
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Originally Posted By: Ujest Shurly
No such place nono

LOL

Czech Republic + Slovakia smile
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#306844 - 05/28/18 06:40 PM Re: Round Table for May, 2018 [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: pdx rick




I don't mean to brag, I don't mean to boast, but I'm like hot butter on breakfast toast. laugh

I bagged a HUGE Fortune 500 CEO conservative, ignorant racist and bigot. It's the real deal. I swear-to-God on my own life. Bow

His public persona is 100% opposite of his private persona.

I'm deciding now how I should proceed. 60 Minutes perhaps? Ronan Farrow? smile


Define "bagged"...does your husband know?
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#306845 - 05/28/18 08:15 PM Re: Round Table for May, 2018 [Re: pdx rick]
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Czech Republic + Slovakia


You really have to pick one or the other. My family comes from Czechia and I know because my name is an English version of a German version of a Czech name. Germany had this quaint habit of marching in every couple of decades because they thought they owned the place. Or at least should own the place.

because #beer-halls & sausages LOL

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#306848 - 05/29/18 05:11 AM Re: Round Table for May, 2018 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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#306849 - 05/29/18 08:15 PM Re: Round Table for May, 2018 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Looking at that video, he is amazing at climbing. I suspect he has done that sort of thing before. Pulling yourself up the balcony railings with just your arms is extremely difficult.

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#306852 - 05/30/18 02:46 PM Re: Round Table for May, 2018 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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We'd deport that rapist criminal faster than he could blink.
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#306853 - 05/30/18 02:55 PM Re: Round Table for May, 2018 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Looking at that video, he is amazing at climbing. I suspect he has done that sort of thing before. Pulling yourself up the balcony railings with just your arms is extremely difficult.


Yet Uncle Sam made me do it 10 times to pass Basic eek

Glad the French have the right attitude.
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#306855 - 05/30/18 08:03 PM Re: Round Table for May, 2018 [Re: Ujest Shurly]
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Yet Uncle Sam made me do it


I bet you were not 40 feet above the ground when you did it.

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#306860 - 05/30/18 10:22 PM Re: Round Table for May, 2018 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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No, not by an inch, but my little toes could not touch the ground. Being closer to the center of the earth, I was heavier then I would have been 40 feet up ROTFMOL
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