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#306693 - 05/10/18 06:30 PM The Democratic Plan
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I heard, last night, that the Dems plan, against the Republicans, is to attack about jobs and the economy. I would submit that this is absolutely crazy. Trump has, quite possibly, the best stats in years, ie. unemployment below 4%, booming economy, etc. If they do this they WILL lose!

My own thought is that they run a "we stand for, they stand for" campaign which should be easy to win and a no brainer. I also think that the Dems should start to claim to be the party of fiscal responsibility as they have, historically, been the party responsible for fixing financial disasters (for which the Republicans were responsible) from the Great Depression of 1929 to the Great Recession of 2008. This would also go far in reminding voters of just who is responsible for our financial disasters in the first place.


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#306696 - 05/10/18 08:50 PM Re: The Democratic Plan [Re: jgw]
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If it means shifting the politics back to the issues of working families with real solutions (not the jibber jabber of job training, creative start up incubation, ladders of opportunity, etc..) then I'm all for it.

Yes, if you have an investment portfolio and enough disposable cash to throw into it then you might think the economy is doing pretty good. If you are in the precariot then your life has been consistently lousy. The labor share of GDP has been on a downward trajectory for decades while the gains have gone to financial markets. That's the only thing people quote nowadays including most liberals. The stock market.
Perhaps they are going to, at long last, declare themselves to be on the side of the working classes and poor, it's historic role, and announce real economic solutions that people can get behind?

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#306697 - 05/10/18 08:53 PM Re: The Democratic Plan [Re: jgw]
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Here's that other economic indicator:
Labor share


Edited by chunkstyle (05/10/18 10:27 PM)

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#306698 - 05/10/18 09:17 PM Re: The Democratic Plan [Re: jgw]
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#306700 - 05/10/18 10:55 PM Re: The Democratic Plan [Re: jgw]
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#306707 - 05/11/18 05:10 PM Re: The Democratic Plan [Re: jgw]
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One bright point, for the Dems, is that there are financial gurus starting to warn of an economic downturn. The jackass has already worked over the agriculture folks (most of which are trumpites) and if he goes after nafta its more than 20,000 jobs in Texas alone. I think that China is actively looking for suppliers, other than those in America, to take care of what they need, due to the Trump tariff thing and the jackass continues to double down. Then there is also the Iran thing and it looks as though europe, asia, etc. are all going to continue to support the iran/nuclear agreement which means that we are going to get a lot more isolated both in trade as well as everything else. Its 6 months to the mid-terms and one can only wonder what happens if the economy tanks before that. Oh, there is also the Medicare and medicaid thing. That too is going to come home to roost, if the Dems even mention what is happening to them due to the "tax cut" and budget.

Anyway, we know the downturn is going to happen, its just a question of "how soon".

This is, probably, yet another exercise in wishful thinking <sigh>

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#306710 - 05/11/18 06:21 PM Re: The Democratic Plan [Re: jgw]
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With all due respect, you seem to be taking a 'let em hang themselves given enough rope', JGW.
I disagree. It's time for bold populist proposals. That used to be the ground that democrats chose to fight on. It's ground from which they dominated congress for 5 decades was it not?



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#306720 - 05/11/18 11:34 PM Re: The Democratic Plan [Re: chunkstyle]
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It's time for bold populist proposals.


Aint that the truth. It's not going to go well if everyone runs on the We Hate Trump platform, and at the moment that appears to be the plan of the DNC.
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#306722 - 05/12/18 12:53 AM Re: The Democratic Plan [Re: jgw]
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Danica Roem, a beautiful transgender woman, didn't win a seat in Virginia's House of Delegates by just campaigning for LGBTQ rights. She ran on a host of issues that concerned the voters.
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#306734 - 05/12/18 06:01 PM Re: The Democratic Plan [Re: Spag-hetti]
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There are plenty of good, Democratic Values that Democrats can run on, and policy proposals that are not pie-in-the-sky. But, and I've said this often, they need to have specific proposals for rural America, too. Like public clinics, and educational support.
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