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#306549 - 05/01/18 06:45 PM Richard Painter Switches from GOP to DFL in Senate Run
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Richard Painter, former George W. Bush ethics lawyer, has announced that he is running for Al Franken's seat as a Democrat.
And not just any Democrat, a Democratic Farm Labor Party Democrat (DFL)

USA Today LINK

Based on what I've observed these last six months from his appearances, Richard Painter is NOT going to BE a person who tries to fight the liberal wing of the party.
He is big picture all the way and I'd have to say more independent than anything else.
In fact, I wonder if his recent appearance on Maher influenced his decision because he sure was getting along famously with two very liberal people on the panel that night.

I would describe Painter as almost a JFK Democrat but if Paul Wellstone were still alive the two of them would get along famously even though Wellstone was much more liberal.
And that's because Wellstone was also big picture.
And the Democrat Farm Labor Party is definitely Wellstone's legacy.

The DFL has gone to great pains to preserve the Paul Wellstone legacy in everything that they do.

I am betting Bernie Sanders is going to like this guy a lot despite the possibility that they might be on different ends of the spectrum.

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#306554 - 05/01/18 08:46 PM Re: Richard Painter Switches from GOP to DFL in Senate Run [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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George W. Bush's ethic lawyer??? Lord help us!
He's a center right republican that will further erode the democratic parties left flank.
Ef' him. They helped set the table for what we have now. Let them wander in the wilderness now. I would have preferred his political crises of conscience before we decided to invade Irag and kill hundreds of thousands.
Sadly, he will probably be let in to the Democratic party. Punching left while moving right since 1980.....

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#306572 - 05/03/18 01:08 AM Re: Richard Painter Switches from GOP to DFL in Senate Run [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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What's wrong with the lady who took Al's place? Hmm


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#306574 - 05/03/18 03:32 AM Re: Richard Painter Switches from GOP to DFL in Senate Run [Re: pdx rick]
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I've seen him on a lot of talk shows. He kind of speaks without intonation, like an automaton. But he has been a Republican voice virulently opposed to Trump and his policies.

He may be a breed we begin to see more of. Those Republicans who find Trump so aberrant that they can't march behind his banner.

I say, welcome to the ranks of sanity. Not sure you get to go to the front of the line.
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#306578 - 05/03/18 11:43 AM Re: Richard Painter Switches from GOP to DFL in Senate Run [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Unfortunately Painter is the front of the line. An examination of the Democratic Party trajectory and it's current behavior in the primary races will show that. Painter is a milder form of candidate the Democratic Party has run and stood by. What the DCCC and DNC can't abide are true progressives and socialist. Those groups might upset their Donor class.
Like Rick says, what's wrong with the woman running on the democratic ticket? In fact, watch what the DSCC in this particular race does. Ideas and grass roots energy vs. 'Brand recognition' and good ol Ivy League connection?


Edited by chunkstyle (05/03/18 01:50 PM)

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#306580 - 05/03/18 12:49 PM Re: Richard Painter Switches from GOP to DFL in Senate Run [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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A good article that shows how Democratic leadership welcoming vipers to their bosoms helped get us to to our current political situation

"It was Democrats in New York who taught both Cohn and Trump that they could buy off politicians and try to get away with anything."

The stink of the east coast liberals


Edited by chunkstyle (05/03/18 12:50 PM)

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#306582 - 05/03/18 08:20 PM Re: Richard Painter Switches from GOP to DFL in Senate Run [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Tell you what, I grant you everything, Chunky...but if it helps unseat the Republicans and unseat Trump, any port in a storm.
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#306583 - 05/03/18 08:45 PM Re: Richard Painter Switches from GOP to DFL in Senate Run [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Yeah, what could possibly go wrong with that strategy Jeff. After all, look at where it's gotten the country in the last 30 years...


Edited by chunkstyle (05/03/18 08:48 PM)

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#306590 - 05/04/18 04:14 PM Re: Richard Painter Switches from GOP to DFL in Senate Run [Re: chunkstyle]
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I take exception. People's political views can, and do, change. Mine certainly have. Does anyone here even know what his political views are?

I'm not a huge Painter fan, but I'm not dismissing him, either. He supported All Franken, he's virulently anti-mining and stridently rule-of-law. Those are not bad attributes. (He holds other views I disagree with, like free trade-ism.)

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#306593 - 05/04/18 05:47 PM Re: Richard Painter Switches from GOP to DFL in Senate Run [Re: NW Ponderer]
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As the rats flee the sinking Republican Party we can expect to see a certain number of them crawling up the lines into the Democratic rescue ship. They will gather on the starboard side with those other like minded Democrats and the boat will list a little farther to the right. This should come as no surprise to Democrats. We've been trying for years to convince them that our way is the right way and they should switch parties. So let's not get too much up in arms when occasionally some of them listen to reason.

The Democratic Party is a moderate centrist party. Lefties(I'm looking at you Chunkstyle) would like to believe that there was a better time, (way back when America was great) when things were different and that rich guys running the government is a new thing.

America is a moderate centrist country. We've taken a bit of a swing to the right but it will ultimately backfire and we'll swing back to center in a few election cycles. With a little luck we may wind up a little left of center for a while. FDR went there but it took the Great Depression and World War II to do it. Then came the cold war and the great communist scare. The media instilled a visceral fear of communism and socialism which lingers to this day...and here we are right of center again with the most corrupt administration in our history.

So will we take a hard swing to the left to compensate? Nope. We'll slowly wander back to center. The excitable left will curse the Democrats, choose some misfit third party candidate to vote for and feel good about themselves because they voted their conscience.

Go for it yall. You just be you! Nader, Stein, and Bernie appreciated your support. Whoever pops up next will also enjoy their moment in your glowing spotlight. But they will change nothing, maybe even make things worse by their very presence.

But keep shouting out your truths.

They aren't less true because no one is listening, perhaps even more poignant for that very reason.
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