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#306493 - 04/26/18 07:16 PM Re: What it will take to curb the President [Re: chunkstyle]
Ma_Republican Offline
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Registered: 02/12/04
Posts: 6466
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
You say nothing and talk in slogans Ma. We are an organization of corporations. International organization that pay little taxes and cannot be sued. The politicians work for them. You helped this state of affairs every step of the way. We are little more than a conglomeration of nuclear armed strip malls, cul de sac's and spent urban centers with gaping income disparities.
What will rise out of this is fascism. You are leading the parade with your watered down 'blood and soil' slogans. You will go Nazi.


It always amazes me when a true believer sees the truth. Sometimes they cry, sometimes, like just now, they strike out at the source of their revelation.

Hey, I actually didn't vote for the Don. I am from Massachusetts, my vote didn't count anyway. Don't blame me, look in a mirror and ask yourself what would have happened if you hadn't run Hillary? Then look at a paper and see who is POTUS.

From a purely entertainment value, all I can do is ask for the popcorn and the Coca Cola.

Tim
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A proud member of the Vast Right-wing Conspiracy, Massachusetts Chapter

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
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#306494 - 04/26/18 07:45 PM Re: What it will take to curb the President [Re: NW Ponderer]
chunkstyle Offline
journeyman

Registered: 10/02/07
Posts: 815
Flattery will get you everywhere with a republican Ma. You flatter yourself.
You have been all Ayn Rand rolled up in Friedman papers. BOTH parties have been pursuing the atomization of society for the benefit of corporatism. I see the fascists getting on board with it cuz they are herd like and love imposed hierarchies. It's a safe space in a chaotic world and gives the dumb and bigoted comfort.

Whites above browns, Christians above other religions, Men above Women, etc.... It's safe and comforting. Kinda like a mother telling their average performing kid their special till he believes it.

What's hard is looking at the power structure as it is and calling B.S. What's easy is carrying the rich mans water for a few strokes and false flattery.
You'll go Nazi


Edited by chunkstyle (04/26/18 07:46 PM)

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#306495 - 04/26/18 07:48 PM Re: What it will take to curb the President [Re: Ma_Republican]
Greger Offline

Pooh-Bah

Registered: 11/24/06
Posts: 13939
Loc: Florida
Quote:
Be happy! You are at the beginning of a rebirth of a nation.


Actually...I'm pretty happy with the way things are turning out. Republicans are stumbling and fumbling, pissing off friends and foes alike. Flailing about like amateurs with no concept of how to govern once elected. They have alienated not just the Millenials but the next generation as well. Z-Gen is getting old enough to vote now and they are seeing firsthand why Republicans cannot be trusted to govern.

Yes, Tim, a new day is coming! But Conservatives aren't going to be playing a major role in it.
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"Be yourself; everyone else is already taken."— Oscar Wilde

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#306496 - 04/26/18 08:05 PM Re: What it will take to curb the President [Re: NW Ponderer]
chunkstyle Offline
journeyman

Registered: 10/02/07
Posts: 815
"Undereducated, consigned to cyclical underemployment, cut off from attaining the women in the videos and movies they watch, unable to articulate personal truths, desperate to belong to something that will make them feel they too have “dragon energy”; this is how capitalism, brands, and even hip-hop thrive—by making the bulk of us feel like losers while holding the carrot on a stick of a future winning just out of reach.

These are particularly insidious diseases masquerading as curative measures.

We are infected, no doubt about it. We are a country addicted to nostalgia, but with no regard for history. Nostalgia is history without moral reckoning; it keeps people pining for golden eras that never existed and anticipating a future that will never materialize. It keeps us invested in the brands that tailor themselves to fit our innermost fears and desires. It keeps us wed to the very hustlers and ethically challenged idiots who will happily lead us to our own demise, knowing they’ve trained us to hold our own leashes for the duration of the walk."

Taken from a recent Kanye West critique describing a bigger narrative of america. Seems pertinent to this thread.....

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#306497 - 04/26/18 10:28 PM Re: What it will take to curb the President [Re: Ma_Republican]
rporter314 Online   content
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Registered: 03/18/03
Posts: 6403
Loc: Highlands, Tx
so your justification for supporting

{aside}I do not hate Mr Trump. I feel sorry for him. He suffers from a personality disorder which makes him believe he is the savior of America, the greatest human to ever etc etc{/aside}

the moronic Mr Trump is, he is doing what he said he would do. What he said he would do is frak America and make people like you love it .... and he has succeeded.

I can only conclude you believe men like Jefferson, Madison, and Adams are enemies of the state.

What would make America great again, as in 1789 great, is for people to rise up and stop the lunacy.
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ignorance is the enemy
without equality there is no liberty

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#306498 - 04/26/18 11:52 PM Re: What it will take to curb the President [Re: chunkstyle]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline

Pooh-Bah

Registered: 08/03/04
Posts: 13119
Loc: Whittier, California
Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
"Undereducated, consigned to cyclical underemployment, cut off from attaining the women in the videos and movies they watch, unable to articulate personal truths, desperate to belong to something that will make them feel they too have “dragon energy”; this is how capitalism, brands, and even hip-hop thrive—by making the bulk of us feel like losers while holding the carrot on a stick of a future winning just out of reach.

These are particularly insidious diseases masquerading as curative measures.

We are infected, no doubt about it. We are a country addicted to nostalgia, but with no regard for history. Nostalgia is history without moral reckoning; it keeps people pining for golden eras that never existed and anticipating a future that will never materialize. It keeps us invested in the brands that tailor themselves to fit our innermost fears and desires. It keeps us wed to the very hustlers and ethically challenged idiots who will happily lead us to our own demise, knowing they’ve trained us to hold our own leashes for the duration of the walk."

Taken from a recent Kanye West critique describing a bigger narrative of america. Seems pertinent to this thread.....



---And the dumbest and most myopic among us who managed to snatch up a couple of crumbs through whatever nefarious short term con could work the levers for a few seconds will walk around parroting the same gospel pitch, pretending that their little piece of ill-gotten gains could form a foundation for lasting stability aboard whatever piece of floating wreckage they managed to grab.

"Hey, I found a headboard in the water, we're not sinking after all!"



Capitalism is a TOOL, and if you're going to shape that tool to serve only the hustlers, pimps and cons, you're going to need an inexhaustible supply of chumps and marks.

On the other hand, if you shape that tool to serve the middle class, the hustlers have to be consigned to the scrap heap because it's the average working stiff who is the hero. He's the one raising the families, making sure his kids get good grades and keeping them on the straight and narrow. He's the one who wants his kids to grow up respecting the moral values and ethics that the founding fathers did.

You can't have it both ways. If your hero is the Pimp Daddy, don't be surprised when your kids rip you off and stab you in the back down the road.



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"He wakes up in the morning, ****s all over Twitter, ****s all over us, ****s all over his staff, then hits golf balls."
---Congressman Peter King

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#306499 - 04/27/18 11:19 AM Re: What it will take to curb the President [Re: chunkstyle]
Ma_Republican Offline
old hand

Registered: 02/12/04
Posts: 6466
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: chunkstyle
Flattery will get you everywhere with a republican Ma. You flatter yourself.
You have been all Ayn Rand rolled up in Friedman papers. BOTH parties have been pursuing the atomization of society for the benefit of corporatism. I see the fascists getting on board with it cuz they are herd like and love imposed hierarchies. It's a safe space in a chaotic world and gives the dumb and bigoted comfort.

Whites above browns, Christians above other religions, Men above Women, etc.... It's safe and comforting. Kinda like a mother telling their average performing kid their special till he believes it.

What's hard is looking at the power structure as it is and calling B.S. What's easy is carrying the rich mans water for a few strokes and false flattery.
You'll go Nazi


There you go, lashing out at the source of your uncomfort. Don't worry, I am here for you! I have big shoulders for you to cry on.

It is always funny, when a liberal has no argument, they infer racism is the issue. When there is no racism, they make it up. So go ahead, call me names, tell me I am a Nazi or a racist. What I am, is an American who is not caught up in something that happened long before I could tie my shoes.

Yeah, yeah, I understand that your carefully scripted world came crashing down on you when Trump got elected. What happens if he gets reelected? What happens when you discover that America just doesn't like the schtick that they have been fed for the last 50 years?

Just remember, the biggest bunch of race hucksters in America is the Democratic Party. They are the ones who take race out of the closet every election, just to carefully put back in the closet right after the election is over. To me, we are all Americans, to a Dem, he is a white guy, she is a African American. The latest socioeconomic group to be abused by the Dems are the Dreamers. Tell me honestly, what have you done to help that group of people, other than nothing? I have sympathy for them, that is the group of illegal immigrants who had no choice and who deserves to have a chance of staying in America. What your party is doing is a disgrace, but the Dems don't care because that particular group of people are no supposed to vote, so they really can't help the Dems during election season. And, if you can't help a Dem during the elections, then you are persona non grata to them.

You have a great day.
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A proud member of the Vast Right-wing Conspiracy, Massachusetts Chapter

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
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#306500 - 04/27/18 12:27 PM Re: What it will take to curb the President [Re: Ma_Republican]
chunkstyle Offline
journeyman

Registered: 10/02/07
Posts: 815
Meh
If you had to give a grade for your trolling, Ma, I'd give it a C.
To long. Brevity is at it's core.
Clumsy arguments. No kernal of truth, more mind palace blatherings.
Racism the argument of the defeated liberal?: Carlottsville marchers, Richard Spencer, Alt Right, Breitbart, All found a home in the Republican Party.......
The list goes on with the weak tea arguments but why bother?
You'll go Nazi


Edited by chunkstyle (04/27/18 12:31 PM)

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#306501 - 04/27/18 12:32 PM Re: What it will take to curb the President [Re: Ma_Republican]
logtroll Offline
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Registered: 04/26/10
Posts: 8785
Loc: New Mexico (not old Mexico)
I had a brief discussion (a generous term) recently on another blog about the concept of Trump having great value for shaking up the status quo. Surprising to me, there was a significant level of agreement that he is an agent of chaos. Except his supporters gleefully made a case that chaos was "good" and "natural" and therefore desirable. I suggested that chaos without a plan, a strategy, to guide the chaotic shitstorm to a new form of improved governance, was suicidal. 'Disruption' is one thing (it is actually a term in vogue for technologies and management initiatives that escape restrictive norms and solve problems on multiple fronts at once); but chaos that has no underlying strategy for improvement is 'destruction'.

I see a clear desire on the part of the Trump-class of supporters (and yes, Tim is obviously a supporter) for destruction. It gives them outsized and morbid pleasure, a fact that raises the hair on my head. Somehow, as Tim demonstrates, they imagine that the #WINNERS! will survive the apocalypse and rise from the ashes as prosperous heroes.

Waterworld, anyone? Road Warriors? No worries, mate, the post apocalyptic world will be Paradise!
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#306502 - 04/27/18 01:37 PM Re: What it will take to curb the President [Re: logtroll]
Ma_Republican Offline
old hand

Registered: 02/12/04
Posts: 6466
Loc: USA
Originally Posted By: logtroll
I had a brief discussion (a generous term) recently on another blog about the concept of Trump having great value for shaking up the status quo. Surprising to me, there was a significant level of agreement that he is an agent of chaos. Except his supporters gleefully made a case that chaos was "good" and "natural" and therefore desirable. I suggested that chaos without a plan, a strategy, to guide the chaotic shitstorm to a new form of improved governance, was suicidal. 'Disruption' is one thing (it is actually a term in vogue for technologies and management initiatives that escape restrictive norms and solve problems on multiple fronts at once); but chaos that has no underlying strategy for improvement is 'destruction'.

I see a clear desire on the part of the Trump-class of supporters (and yes, Tim is obviously a supporter) for destruction. It gives them outsized and morbid pleasure, a fact that raises the hair on my head. Somehow, as Tim demonstrates, they imagine that the #WINNERS! will survive the apocalypse and rise from the ashes as prosperous heroes.

Waterworld, anyone? Road Warriors? No worries, mate, the post apocalyptic world will be Paradise!


Chaos

1.
a state of utter confusion or disorder; a total lack of organization or order.
2.
any confused, disorderly mass:
a chaos of meaningless phrases.

How can anything be chaotic and have plan or a strategy?
I believe that Trump's election will cure many ills. My worry is the that the cure might be worse than the ill. All I can say is that the current incarnation of America isn't working. The priorities are wrong, the budget is nonexistent and the leadership is corrupt and uninformed, on both sides of the aisle. It is time for America to take a really good look at itself and fix what is wrong. If that means that a guy like Donald Trump has to spend 4 years, or maybe 8 years, in the White House, then we are stuck with the Donald.

The sheer horror I see from the established "leaders" on both sides of the political make me want to jump for joy! Finally, somebody who can make the cesspool dwellers of Congress look at themselves? We should make a movie, Donald goes to Washington! Starring Hillary Clinton as the shrill screecher, Paul Ryan as Little Boy Bought and Sold, Nancy Pelosi as the Wicked Witch of the West and Donald Trump as the anti-hero President who can't do anything right, but still succeeds despite himself. Guest starring porn stars, a litany of ex-flames, ex-politicians, ex-FBI agents and the DNC looking to deflect the fact they invested money in a document that was supposed to discredit out anti-hero.

We will make a fortune!

Tim
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A proud member of the Vast Right-wing Conspiracy, Massachusetts Chapter

“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.”
Thomas Jefferson

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