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#306809 - 05/21/18 06:40 PM Re: The Democratic Plan [Re: jgw]
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I hope you are not saying these folks were born unnaturally. And beside, no modern conservative would know the difference. They have only read one amendment in the whole Constitution and don't understand it.
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#306811 - 05/22/18 12:31 AM Re: The Democratic Plan [Re: jgw]
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Natural born as used in paragraph 5, section 1, Article II of the Constitution and defined in section 212, Chapter 19, book 1 of Vattel's Law of Nations - http://www.constitution.org/vattel/vattel_01.htm

At least, until SCOTUS is forced to define and decide the issue...

Then, THANK HEAVENS I'm not a conservative LOL


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#306813 - 05/22/18 02:56 AM Re: The Democratic Plan [Re: jgw]
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Clooney is a lot more than another actor. Read his bio on Wikipedia. He's a media star like Trump but he's actually won all sorts of awards for his humanitarian projects. He's married to a beautiful woman like Trump, but his wife is a world-renowned human rights lawyer. He's a businessman like Trump, but with zero bankruptcies and his tequila business sold for a billion dollars.

He's actually a descendant of Abraham Lincoln's mother and Rosemary Clooney's nephew, but came up from humble beginnings. His mother was a city councilwoman, his father an anchorman in Kentucky. He attended Catholic and public schools.

Every thing Trump has ever done, Clooney has done better. Usually a lot better. He even looks Presidential. Women want him and men want to be him.

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#306816 - 05/22/18 04:01 AM Re: The Democratic Plan [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
It would be nice if we could get a populist Democrat that was not well beyond retirement age to run. I'd hate to expend all the time, energy, and money to elect somebody and have him or her drop dead in office. That's one thing Obama had going for him. He was just 57 when he took office.

You mean 47. smile
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#306817 - 05/22/18 04:02 AM Re: The Democratic Plan [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Women want him and men want to be him.

I'd rather be like Andy Cohen, or Dan Savage. More like a hybrid of the two: Dan's smarts and Andy's happy-go-lucky nature. Hmm , smile
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#306820 - 05/22/18 10:42 AM Re: The Democratic Plan [Re: pdx rick]
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and he looked like a 67 year old, grey headed, white guy when he left

I'll bet when (and if) MR Trump leaves office he will look like he has a pocket full of money
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#306834 - 05/27/18 01:10 AM Re: The Democratic Plan [Re: rporter314]
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Trump's hair is already looking worse and the fake tan has faded.

He's going to start aging very quickly now...It's a tough job.
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#306939 - 06/08/18 05:04 PM Re: The Democratic Plan [Re: jgw]
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Great, now Trump is claiming making insurance companies cover preexisting conditions is unconstitutional. But that provision of the ACA is very popular, even with Republicans. This could really help Democrats in the midterms. Wiley Coyote has just dropped a big safe on his head!

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#306940 - 06/08/18 08:19 PM Re: The Democratic Plan [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Great, now Trump is claiming making insurance companies cover preexisting conditions is unconstitutional. But that provision of the ACA is very popular, even with Republicans. This could really help Democrats in the midterms. Wiley Coyote has just dropped a big safe on his head!


Trump and his Republican toadies have just consigned my son, and hundreds of thousands, maybe even millions, of Americans, to an early grave, because without the mandate to cover "preexisting conditions", they are now once again uninsurable, at any cost.

This president and this political majority have just turned the United States of America into a darwinian, dickensian nightmare, and as far as I'm concerned, I'd just as soon wipe my ass with the so called FLAG that represents it.

Congratulations, Republicans...you are now my sworn ENEMY forever.
Maybe it really IS time we turned America fully socialist, by any means necessary.
After all, it's clear that the majority of conservatives cannot be trusted to maintain even a shred of humanity when they hold the reins of power, it's too tempting for them to slurp up all that compassion and pronounce it as weakness.

I fully expect them to declare S-CHIP unconstitutional next. That way all those pro-life conservatives can screech about killing unborn fetuses while they cheerfully leave sick children to die on the table.

Trump groupies aren't taking stock of real people in the real world any longer. Trump is sh*tting on disabled vets, children of disabled vets, small business owners who use metal in their work, soldiers on active duty who might soon be called up to fight another stupid, pointless and unwinnable war and ordinary working people who will in the long run pay a lot more in taxes after the bait and switch token tax cut expires.

You're poorer, you're older, you're going to be sicker, you're going to make/keep less money in the long run, you're going to pay more for everything, your environment is going to degrade more, your nation's financial environment is at higher risk than it was in 2007-8, the young folks are going to be dumber and dumber and we're closer to war than ever before. And that's just a few of the big hits.

The Trump Express has cut all the seat belts, disconnected the air bags, disconnected the drop down oxygen masks, poked holes in the inflatable life rafts, loosened the lug nuts and put Tide detergent into the engine crankcase.
And you're acting like we're doing 140 on the Autobahn.

Trump has done the Democrats an enormous favor by cutting the preexisting conditions mandate from the ACA.
Republicans will die on this hill.
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#306941 - 06/08/18 08:29 PM Re: The Democratic Plan [Re: jgw]
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Its just part of the onslaught on the "Entitled Economy". This includes any and all of Obamacare, Medicare, and Medicaid. Medicare, for instance, will be broke and done in 8 years. One of the interesting things is that we have been told that most of the hardcore supporters of the Jackass are either close to retiring or already there. We are in for interesting times.

If the Dems win in 2018 it will be interesting what they do. I can remember other times they were in charge and they did not, exactly, fill my heart with glee. It actually looks as if they missed the bullet in California so, hopefully, they actually have a chance at getting back the house and if they REALLY get out the vote they will own the Senate too.

I continue, however, to be concerned at how the Dems are going to win. Apparently they are sticking to the plan to make it all about Trump and letting the Republican right continue to burn and pillage with impunity and, apparently, only vaguely being reported by the news. A good example is the idiot in charge of the EPA. Instead of noting what he is doing they are reporting on his quirky, idiotic behavior. This morning, however, they did note that he rolled back clean water standards. I would, in other words, much rather like to see a concerted effort to list what the other side is for and then simply state that is not anything the Dems support. Anyway, I hope they are right (I have been so wrong, so many times, I have lost count <G>)

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