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#306504 - 04/27/18 02:50 PM Re: What it will take to curb the President [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Agreed!

Trump is every fat necked aging white male boomers fantasy come true. Out there raw doggin porn stars, wipin his hands on the drapes of fancy cocktail parties, living in a New York penthouse not afraid of calling a spade a spade. He's the idea of success of every spoiled and angry fox news watching white aging boomer Pa Pa and they would make a line around the block to watch that movie making us rich much like they have made the gold investment hustlers and erection pill companies rich.

At last Ma, we agree. Trump brought us together......

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#306505 - 04/27/18 02:59 PM Re: What it will take to curb the President [Re: Ma_Republican]
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See how they elevate chaos? very strange...

The reason for it is that the other options are all somehow worse.

If true Americans are so capable of rebuilding from the ashes of total collapse, then why not use that innate power and talent to fix things through positive disruptive, rather than destructive means? If we can't do that, then I don't see how we can rise from the dead (metaphorically speaking).

Using the American Revolution as a comparison, did the founders of the American nation ride Chaos into the formation of the United States, or did they have a plan that was developed through much intelligent discussion and compromise?

What is your plan for a new America, Tim? All I see is, "gonna git mine while the gittin' is good! Every man fer hisself! No more rules!"


Edited by logtroll (04/27/18 03:00 PM)
Edit Reason: spelling
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#306506 - 04/27/18 05:19 PM Re: What it will take to curb the President [Re: Ma_Republican]
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It is time for America to take a really good look at itself and fix what is wrong.


Truer words were never spoken. We may disagree about what is wrong and how to fix it but at least there is some common ground.
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#306507 - 04/27/18 06:57 PM Re: What it will take to curb the President [Re: Ma_Republican]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline


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Originally Posted By: Ma_Republican

How can anything be chaotic and have plan or a strategy?


Forest fires.
Mother Nature sets her own forest fires for a very structured and very organized reason.

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#306510 - 04/27/18 07:16 PM Re: What it will take to curb the President [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Trump is a farce of Nature?
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#306511 - 04/28/18 12:45 AM Re: What it will take to curb the President [Re: logtroll]
rporter314 Offline
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Registered: 03/18/03
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I believe conservatives believe
Quote:
Every man fer hisself! No more rules!
(regarding the federal government. why they can not see local governments are every bit as restrictive and constraining beats me)

I call it the Darwinian Death Match ... no protection from the federal government

sorry I stepped on an earlier comment ... I see you recognize the result of the chaos .... why does it elude Tim?


Edited by rporter314 (04/28/18 12:58 AM)
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#306513 - 04/28/18 12:56 AM Re: What it will take to curb the President [Re: Ma_Republican]
rporter314 Offline
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All I can say is that the current incarnation of America isn't working. ... If that means that a guy like Donald Trump has to spend 4 years, or maybe 8 years, in the White House, then we are stuck with the Donald.

Tim .... first I recommend taking a course in logic.

Your comment is nonsensical. You say nothing is working ... then you say Mr Trump will fix it ... but the facts say he is making it worse .... so you support him

You love tax cuts (read that to really mean you don't want to pay for entitlements) and you want a balanced budget. Mr Trump just signed a bill which will give you a tax cut (for a little daub of money) but the budget will balloon by 150% (CBO projection). So why are you supporting Mr Trump??? Isn't there some definition about insanity which may be applicable???
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#306524 - 04/28/18 10:05 AM Re: What it will take to curb the President [Re: NW Ponderer]
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I don't want to pile on Ma R, but...
seriously?? Tim, do you ever really consider the content of what you post? I really, really, really want to have a discussion that includes conservative thoughts on the subject, but I don't see any evidence of that in any of your "contributions". I don't even know where to begin.

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#306525 - 04/28/18 10:36 AM Re: What it will take to curb the President [Re: NW Ponderer]
rporter314 Offline
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I am going to apologize again (and may do it again) for typing and thinking, prior to election and at inauguration, Mr Trump could have been "curbed" by staff and Congress. I did not take into account the depth and hold of the cult of personality with this person. Man ... really wrong ... maybe don't pay attention to anything I type.

Based on recent history and an article by Trump biographers on his penchant to drive businesses into the ground and destroy his staff along the way, it would appear one could make a similar argument for the future of America. I am not the only person to note the signs of future problems. But, this is more complicated than merely the intrusion of Trump Chaos. There has been a tectonic style shift in the politics of the country of which everyone is aware, but I suspect it is worse than people have previously realized. This may be akin to the boiling frog metaphor. We may not realize the extent of damage until it is too late.
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#306527 - 04/28/18 06:23 PM Re: What it will take to curb the President [Re: NW Ponderer]
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The only saving grace may be that a Russian agent is unlikely to launch the nukes at Russia. Putin would never approve that.

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