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#306978 - 06/13/18 11:10 AM Re: The 9.9 Percent Is the New American Aristocracy [Re: NW Ponderer]
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The 538 article that was referenced by the author did a good job breaking down the support for the three candidates:

Nate Silvers sweet spots

S'funny how the tropes of the rural and white working class voters were the suspects fingered in the presidents victory by the media. Wonder why?

Meanwhile, workers at Boeing voted to unionize at the South Carolina plant, teamster rank and file voted to strike at UPS if they fail to reach agreement and there's been a 4 state strike on in the Midwest by communications workers. But who the heck is watching that when we got us some Mueller investigatin and Trump antics.
Certainly not the Democratic Party. Unions don't play in Clinton country and are despised by the 10%.


Edited by chunkstyle (06/13/18 11:37 AM)

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#306980 - 06/13/18 07:56 PM Re: The 9.9 Percent Is the New American Aristocracy [Re: NW Ponderer]
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I'm in the top 10% and I support unions. But maybe I'm the exception because I'm STEM instead of an MBA-type. Actually, most of my engineer friends are liberals. Most of our friends in the vet and medical communities, too.

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#306981 - 06/14/18 02:12 AM Re: The 9.9 Percent Is the New American Aristocracy [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Centrist third way democrats, with Bill Clinton's 'where ya gunna go?' triangulation have been no friend to Unions. One wonders if those Ozark grifters had supported labor and real economic rights would they have done better in the battle ground states she lost. I believe she ignored the halls of Wisconsin and Michigan thruout her campaign. No point in rehashing the results. Sides, we can blame russia and avoid the discussion altogether. Centrists have been taking advantage of unions for decades now. So who's the fool? Trump for seizing on this fact or Centrist Dems for ignoring it. Some labor solidarity would be damn handy right now as a bulwark against this march to fascism.
I've heard they have pictures of Sanders hanging in the same Halls that went for trump. He's an old school democrat who understands that economic justice has to be there along with social justice. Something Clintonism has moved the party away from.
She could perhaps do $12.50/hr but not $15. From someone who pockets a quarter mil from a 1/2 hour speech at Goldman...... Nice!


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#306982 - 06/14/18 03:43 AM Re: The 9.9 Percent Is the New American Aristocracy [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Labor unions would have been vastly better off with President Hillary instead of President Trump, if only because of Trump's Supreme Court court appointment. That damage is going to last for years.

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#306984 - 06/14/18 04:13 AM Re: The 9.9 Percent Is the New American Aristocracy [Re: NW Ponderer]
chunkstyle Offline
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Yeah, some of the rank and file took a shot.
We would all be better off if she could have got off her a$$ and visited those states and specifically those neglected unions.
Internal revelations from her campaign have described a strategy of playing to the suburban republicans put off by Trump. Centrists gunna be centrists. Moving right while punching left. Here we are.
But, yeah, beer guzzling pizza slobs......

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#306989 - 06/14/18 11:14 PM Re: The 9.9 Percent Is the New American Aristocracy [Re: NW Ponderer]
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I'm not a big beer fan, but I always have some pizza in the fridge. I guess I AM an elitist though because I like to put pesto on it after it comes out of the microwave.

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