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#307062 - 06/22/18 11:37 PM Re: ICE - the new gestapo [Re: Greger]
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It pretty much boggles the imagination that Republican hatred for people of color runs so deep.
Yet they are adamantly not racists! Could it be a miracle...?
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#307077 - 06/23/18 11:26 PM Re: ICE - the new gestapo [Re: jgw]
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Perhaps the USA is not (completely) like Nazi Germany.

The public reaction against the barbaric, malevolent separating of children from their parents could not have occurred in Nazi Germany.

Clearly, many Americans have not yet been brainwashed into becoming dupes of the fascistic power structure of the USA.

However, the proportion of Americans supporting evil is still disturbingly high.
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#307079 - 06/24/18 12:56 AM Re: ICE - the new gestapo [Re: jgw]
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It almost makes me think we really do need the church, to explain to these idiots what is right and what is wrong every Sunday.

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#307082 - 06/24/18 05:17 AM Re: ICE - the new gestapo [Re: jgw]
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Beto O'Rourke, the top challenger to Ted Cruz' seat, paid a visit to Tornillo today.

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#307084 - 06/24/18 07:09 AM Re: ICE - the new gestapo [Re: Ma_Republican]
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I may be a heartless conservative, but at least I use a little logic.
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You left out an adjective. "Very" - as in, "very little logic." You see, Tim, there are things like "Laws" and "standards" and "basic humanity" that are supposed to apply in these situations. ICE is out of control because this administration doesn't believe in the rule of law and is inherently racist. I can provide a lengthy critique of the numerous violations of national and international law that these policies represent, but I know that will avail nothing.

What you probably don't realize, though, is that DHS believes that YOU are within their jurisdiction. Yep, checkpoints in Boston. Better carry your papers everywhere. BTW, your driver's license doesn't count (although mine does, as it is "enhanced"). You could be detained for weeks while they "process" you, and even deported. Access to a lawyer? HAH! Not in ICE-land. You don't even have to be brown, although that is "reasonable suspicion" to the Border Patrol. Good luck!

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#307085 - 06/24/18 01:01 PM Re: ICE - the new gestapo [Re: NW Ponderer]
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It is an exceedingly sad state of affairs when a U.S. official - the top law enforcement official, no less - resorts to quoting the Bible to justify a policy (Remember the First Amendment, Mr. Sessions? Apparently not), then defends that policy by literally claiming it's "not as bad as the Nazis'." When Nazi Germany's extermination program is the "comparable" for a policy, you know we're in bad trouble.

Yes, but our concentration camps are not as bad as theirs because we don't do the killing! Instead we ship them to some "hell hole" to let vicious gangs do it for us. But at least our hands are clean! Multiple news agencies are legitimately comparing ICE and Border Patrol tactics to Gestapo practices - midnight raids of homes, round ups at businesses, bus searches, checkpoints in major cities - But, but, but "we're not as bad as that!" This is Amerika. These policies only affect brown people!

If you are not outraged at this point, and legitimately scared, you're not paying attention.

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#307086 - 06/24/18 05:01 PM Re: ICE - the new gestapo [Re: NW Ponderer]
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It is an exceedingly sad state of affairs when a U.S. official - the top law enforcement official, no less - resorts to quoting the Bible to justify a policy

I bet there is something Jefferson Beauregard could quote from Sharia Law to bolster his ugly bias, too. Why just rely on Christian Law? Belt and suspenders, I always say...
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#307091 - 06/24/18 11:37 PM Re: ICE - the new gestapo [Re: jgw]
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Trump has now also decided that rule of law and due process need not apply either. The American people who worship Trump do so to the point where he absolutely can DO NO WRONG?
Yeah, that's a cult alright. They are Branch Davidians.

And I'm currently wondering exactly what it is that separates Donald Trump from David Koresh, besides money.
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