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#307195 - 07/01/18 03:21 AM Round Table For July 2018
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Welcome to the ReaderRant Roundtable for July 2018
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#307196 - 07/01/18 03:39 AM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Greger]
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#307206 - 07/01/18 07:05 PM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Greger]
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I almost forgot that it is July. Halfway through another calendar... OMG, OMG, OMG... what a half a year it has been.
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#307232 - 07/03/18 03:30 AM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Greger]
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#307235 - 07/03/18 05:13 AM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: pdx rick]
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I recognize that this story is not over, yet, but I have been buoyed all day by this: Thailand cave rescue: Boys found alive after nine days. I never expected this to happen.

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#307237 - 07/03/18 10:24 AM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: pdx rick]
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It proves President Donald (DICKtator Wannabe) Trump is like Typhoid Mary - Idiocy is contagious.
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#307238 - 07/03/18 11:25 AM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
I recognize that this story is not over, yet, but I have been buoyed all day by this: Thailand cave rescue: Boys found alive after nine days. I never expected this to happen.

I'm surprised as well, and happy for the rescued and their families. smile
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#307239 - 07/03/18 03:22 PM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Greger]
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Remember, this is a W. pick. Literacy was not a hallmark of his administration, either. I think, though, that the judge in question misses the larger point - whether literacy is a "fundamental right" is largely immaterial, because it has become an "Equal application of the law" problem since the legislature now insists that literacy is a requirement to "graduate" third grade.
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#307251 - 07/04/18 01:36 AM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Greger]
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I think the solution might be to teach those kids how to scuba dive. They have brought in months worth of food, so they have lots of time to do it. The distances of flooded caves they have to traverse is incredible. It might be faster to just drill a shaft down to where they are.

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#307253 - 07/04/18 04:17 AM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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It might be faster to just drill a shaft down to where they are.

I was thinking the very same thing. Hmm One map that I saw showed that the group was 1.25 miles in from the mouth of the cave.

How did they get in there with a dry cave floor bed in the first place? Did water "suddenly" come from behind them? Hmm
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#307255 - 07/04/18 04:37 PM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Greger]
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There are a couple of technical problems with drilling a shaft, not the least of which is figuring out where to drill it. Hitting a small target deep underground is extremely difficult. What if they miss? Months of effort can be lost. I suspect they'll start with air/communication shafts.

I'm a scuba diver. Let me clarify: I'm a recreational diver. I don't dive caves because they are extremely dangerous and scary as hell. The professional divers who reached the team had to dig out the tunnels to fit through. There is zero visibility, and currents. They had to leave guidelines behind to avoid getting lost. I have a hard time imagining an 11-year-old attempting it.

And yes, the cave was dry when they entered, and it was a month before monsoon season, so they weren't expecting rain. The caves flooded behind them. It is now monsoon season.
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#307257 - 07/04/18 06:47 PM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Greger]
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Patriotism. I just got back from my little town's 4th of July parade - it's not much, fire trucks, baseball teams, a couple of churches, PFLAG, enviros, tractors, classic cars, etc. But the most notable thing in my observation was that practically nobody stood when the local military color guard went by. Make of it what you will.

On Saturdays, we get a program on the local public radio station called The Thomas Jefferson Hour with historian Clay Jenkinson playing TJ in present day interviews. It's very good. A line from the last show really struck me. Jefferson was talking about opening the White House to the public twice a year during his presidency, one day being the 4th. He said he didn't mingle freely with the crowd because of the importance of "preserving the dignity of the office". I thought, "Well, so much for that..."
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#307263 - 07/05/18 07:56 PM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: logtroll]
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Embattled EPA head Pruitt resigns - the Hill. Small favors. Do you think he's hoping to avoid indictment? I say "small favors" because his deputy, Andrew Wheeler, may be as bad as, or worse than, Pruitt. Remember, he was, until narrowly approved on a party-line vote, a coal lobbyist. Who Is Andrew Wheeler? (And Why You Should Be Afraid of Him) - nrdc.
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his most recent job was as an energy lobbyist. His biggest clients included Murray Energy Corporation, which proudly bills itself as the largest coal mining company in America, and whose CEO, Robert E. Murray, vigorously fought the Obama administration’s attempts to reduce carbon emissions and strengthen environmental and public health laws. Shortly after Trump took office, Murray, an unabashed climate denier, presented Vice President Mike Pence with a ridiculously pro-coal “action plan” that called for doing away with the Clean Power Plan, withdrawing from the Paris climate agreement, eliminating federal tax credits for renewable energy, and—yes—halving the EPA’s workforce.

In his spare time, Wheeler serves as the vice president of the Washington Coal Club, a powerful yet little-known federation of more than 300 coal producers, lawmakers, business leaders, and policy experts who have dedicated themselves to preserving the uncertain future of our dirtiest fossil fuel. Wheeler clearly loves coal, but he’s also made time to lobby the U.S. Department of the Interior to open portions of the Bears Ears National Monument to uranium mining.

It gets worse...


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#307271 - 07/06/18 12:19 AM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Greger]
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Had to kill another rattler yesterday. Damned thing was 2 feet from my house. That's about 20 so far in the decade I have lived here. It's 20 to 0 so far, but I have paid for a lot of antivenon for my dogs.

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#307274 - 07/06/18 12:52 AM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Greger]
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Scott Pruitt is out. Resigned today. You know, when an administration has to fire so many of their top people, it doesn't so much reflect on those people as it does on the idiot who hired them. Trump is TERRIBLE at finding good competent people to hire!

I suppose a narcissist always has to hire people who are worse than him, just so he can exercise the "boss being disappointed in them" scenario. He must be running low on candidates who are worse knobs than him.

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#307276 - 07/06/18 02:08 AM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Good, competent people won't work for him.
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#307278 - 07/06/18 05:11 AM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Greger]
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Sadly: Thai cave rescue: Former Navy diver dies while exiting flooded tunnels - CNN. Unfortunately it demonstrates both the risk rescuers are taking and the dangers the team still faces.
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#307283 - 07/06/18 11:25 AM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Greger]
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#307284 - 07/06/18 01:42 PM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Greger]
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Let it FLY!
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#307286 - 07/06/18 04:56 PM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Sadly: Thai cave rescue: Former Navy diver dies while exiting flooded tunnels - CNN. Unfortunately it demonstrates both the risk rescuers are taking and the dangers the team still faces.


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#307287 - 07/06/18 06:16 PM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Greger]
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The soccer kids reported hearing sounds from outside as soon as the divers found them. Rescuers should really try to find out if there is a back passage somewhere. They could just form a massive grid pattern about where they think the kids are but above ground, and shoot a gun as they walk the grid. If anybody in the cave hears them, they stop walking. Then each member of the search party shoots in turn. If there is a hole, they could locate it very quickly.

This has the great advantage of letting hundreds of people help in the rescue, not just a few advanced scuba divers.

Another thing they could try is to release some distinctive odor inside the cave. Then let dog teams go over the outside to locate the scent. I would suggest drug-sniffing dogs since so many of them are already trained to locate those specific scents. Also they are so sensitive, you wouldn't have to drug everybody in the cave. Just use a little bit of cannabis or opium.

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#307299 - 07/07/18 06:13 PM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Greger]
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I see North Korea is refuting Trump's claim that any real progress has been made toward denuclearization. Just as EVERYBODY but Trump expected. Who'd a thunk it? The scorpion is still a scorpion, and Pepe is still a poor dumb frog.

BTW, speaking of Pepe The Frog, I have noticed most use of Pepe images on 4chan are by posters who are miserable because of breakups, sexual identity crises, or planning suicide.

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#307308 - 07/08/18 04:16 PM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Greger]
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Six of the Thai soccer players have been rescued and are out of the cave. Six more, plus the coach still need to be.

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#307321 - 07/09/18 04:43 PM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: pdx rick]
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Eight have now been extracted. One more day, hopefully...

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#307346 - 07/10/18 03:18 PM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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All the kids and the coach are out! Now to rescue the rescuers. (Three divers and a doctor are still in the cave.)

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#307359 - 07/10/18 09:37 PM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Greger]
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Everybody is out now, all okay. They should give Saman Kunan, the diver who died the highest military honor they have. I would contribute to an internet fund for his wife. I think a lot of people would.

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#307372 - 07/11/18 10:14 PM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Greger]
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Apparently the exfiltration of the Thai SEALs and doctor was a near-run thing. The pump lowering the water level back failed and water started rising in the cave so they had to expedite their departure ahead of the flood.

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#307376 - 07/12/18 03:35 AM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Greger]
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Good evening,
The Trump administration is now using funds from by reallocating money from the Ryan White HIV/AIDS Program.

According to documents leaked to Slate, funding is already being drained from the primary government programme for HIV/AIDS care in the US to fund the surge in detention work undertaken by the Office of Refugee Resettlement.
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#307380 - 07/12/18 04:35 AM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Greger]
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That's f"&_ing illegal!! Antideficiency Act

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#307381 - 07/12/18 04:38 AM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
...The Trump administration is now using funds from by reallocating money from the Ryan White HIV/AIDS Program. ...


Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
That's f"&_ing illegal!! Antideficiency Act

Every single, day, Trump and Pence make America hate again. Hmm
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#307398 - 07/12/18 08:00 PM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: pdx rick]
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I have watched a chunk of the hearing Peter Strzok is testifying at today. He's handled himself well. The lack of candor and acumen of the Representatives doing the queries is embarrassing. We're in a world of hurt that these are the people representing us.

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#307419 - 07/14/18 12:30 AM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Greger]
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In other news, in a case of clearly FERAL children, three teens terrorized a ONE year old infant with a taser.
They were arrested Monday night in central Arkansas after videos posted to Snapchat showed a baby they were supposed to be caring for instead being taunted with a taser, authorities said.
Two of the girls said they didn't see any "wrongdoing in their actions," a police report says, and they blamed the girl who posted the videos to Snapchat in the first place.

If adults show this atrocious behavior why are we surprised if kids do it?
This is the sign of a feral society, encouraged and enabled by feral leadership.

What have we become?
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#307420 - 07/14/18 01:16 AM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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What have we become?
A nation of Republicans.
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#307422 - 07/14/18 02:45 AM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Prison time for the girls, and for God's Sake, sterilize them all. They should NEVER be in a position to make life and death decisions for an infant again. 10 is supposed to be The Age of Reason. Not 18.

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#307423 - 07/14/18 05:01 AM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Trump fans love that. In fact there is nothing about Trump and his Gang they do not love. They love everything about him... and his gang of Thugs. Trump et al are their wet dreams “come” true.

“We” wait for the next election. I firmly believe there will be much more dire conniptions occurring before that event. Very much more dire.....And no.....we are not having fun yet.
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#307430 - 07/14/18 03:14 PM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Greger]
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What have we become?
A nation of Republicans.
Sadly, that is too "on point". When the Chief executive of the nation is an unadulterated A-hole, it kind of gives permission for everyone else to follow his example.

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#307443 - 07/15/18 03:27 AM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Greger]
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I knew that 'dress" looked familiar. smile
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#307444 - 07/15/18 03:34 AM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Greger]
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The Brits even got the light circles around the eyes and the tiny hands and fingers, correct.

Hmm

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#307446 - 07/15/18 12:28 PM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Greger]
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Trump is told to f-off in Edinburgh. smile

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#307448 - 07/15/18 06:43 PM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: pdx rick]
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I knew that 'dress" looked familiar. smile

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#307449 - 07/15/18 07:42 PM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Greger]
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#307452 - 07/15/18 08:00 PM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Greger]
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Sasha Cohen Barron gets ReTHUGliclown politicians to advocate for Toddler/Child gun use training:

Quote:
To stop a bad guy with a gun, it takes a good child with a gun.




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#307473 - 07/16/18 03:29 PM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: pdx rick]
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Trump is again blaming victims - so 1980s - saying DNC was responsible for the hack.
Just to prove I'm not making it up: Trump: DNC 'should be ashamed' for Russian hack - Politico.


Edited by NW Ponderer (07/16/18 03:32 PM)
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#307497 - 07/17/18 11:14 AM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Greger]
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#307499 - 07/17/18 01:17 PM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Greger]
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Time for another Russia thread?

Maria Butina, the NRA, The Republican Party, Russia

Lets see, checking and updating the binge list - popcorn, water and decaf, recliner, catheters, ...
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#307507 - 07/17/18 07:02 PM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: pdx rick]
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Oh look, Trump was right! He really could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and get away with it.
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#307514 - 07/17/18 10:11 PM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Greger]
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I wonder how the guys in the New York FBI office are feeling these days.

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#307521 - 07/18/18 04:52 AM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Oh look, Trump was right! He really could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and get away with it.


LOL

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#307522 - 07/18/18 04:53 AM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Greger]
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Apparently, Fatass gets all tongue-tied and "misspeaks" standing next to this boyfriend, Vlad. coffee
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#307523 - 07/18/18 06:21 AM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Greger]
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Trump keeps claiming "No Colusion" but I don't think he knows what that word means. When you tell somebody to commit a crime, and they do the next day, that's collusion. When your people tell criminals to release stolen information on a certain day for maximum effect, and they do, that's collusion. When you send people to a meeting with criminals to obtain stolen data, that's collusion.
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#307524 - 07/18/18 11:37 AM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Trump keeps claiming "No Colusion" but I don't think he knows what that word means. When you tell somebody to commit a crime, and they do the next day, that's collusion. When your people tell criminals to release stolen information on a certain day for maximum effect, and they do, that's collusion. When you send people to a meeting with criminals to obtain stolen data, that's collusion.

Donald J Trump is simply not a very bright man. He's just not. Hmm
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#307525 - 07/18/18 02:28 PM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: pdx rick]
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Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Trump keeps claiming "No Colusion" but I don't think he knows what that word means. When you tell somebody to commit a crime, and they do the next day, that's collusion. When your people tell criminals to release stolen information on a certain day for maximum effect, and they do, that's collusion. When you send people to a meeting with criminals to obtain stolen data, that's collusion.

Donald J Trump is simply not a very bright man. He's just not. Hmm
and that is why he is so perfect for his voters.
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#307526 - 07/18/18 03:32 PM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
Originally Posted By: pdx rick
Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Trump keeps claiming "No Colusion" but I don't think he knows what that word means. When you tell somebody to commit a crime, and they do the next day, that's collusion. When your people tell criminals to release stolen information on a certain day for maximum effect, and they do, that's collusion. When you send people to a meeting with criminals to obtain stolen data, that's collusion.

Donald J Trump is simply not a very bright man. He's just not. Hmm
and that is why he is so perfect for his voters.


Many of which were the democratic base a few cycles ago.....

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