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#307613 - 07/22/18 11:53 PM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: logtroll]
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"An accredited investor is a person or entity that can deal with securities not registered with financial authorities by satisfying one of the requirements regarding income, net worth, asset size, governance status or professional experience. The term is used by the Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) under Regulation D to refer to investors who are financially sophisticated and have a reduced need for the protection provided by regulatory disclosure filings. Accredited investors include natural individuals, banks, insurance companies, brokers and trusts.

Read more: Accredited Investor https://www.investopedia.com/terms/a/accreditedinvestor.asp#ixzz5M1xqmRZW
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#307614 - 07/22/18 11:59 PM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: logtroll]
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Disclaimer: I am a local investment opportunity missionary... investing in businesses owned and operated by people you know and trust should not be harder than millionaires investing in who knows what.
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#307617 - 07/23/18 02:58 AM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Greger]
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I saw Rob Reiner's Shock and Awe last night. It just reminded me of how every time the Republicans get into Office, everyone's lives are determinately affected in a negative way.

Every...single...time. mad , Hmm
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#307619 - 07/23/18 04:56 AM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: logtroll]
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Why the assumption that it would be high risk?


Because of the extremely high failure for small business startups. If a business has the capital and the people to get registered with the SEC, then the failure rate is lower. And if some small investor buys SPY, the risk of a total loss is almost non-existent.

And the sad truth is that most investors would be better off buying SPY than investing in anything else. Trump certainly would have been, with the 100 million his father gave him.

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#307621 - 07/23/18 08:05 AM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: logtroll]
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Originally Posted By: logtroll
"An accredited investor is ....
thanks, log. I stand corrected. Or, as Trump would say, "I can't stand to be corrected."

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#307622 - 07/23/18 09:29 AM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Why the assumption that it would be high risk?


Because of the extremely high failure for small business startups. If a business has the capital and the people to get registered with the SEC, then the failure rate is lower..

Do have substantiation for that claim?

Undercapitalization is a common reason for startup failure. Maybe that has something to do with it being difficult to access capital? Debt is another reason for startup failure - and often taking on debt is the only option for raising capital.
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#307628 - 07/23/18 07:24 PM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Greger]
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Do your own google searches. It's all over the internet.

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Undercapitalization is a common reason for startup failure. Maybe that has something to do with it being difficult to access capital?


Or more likely it's the other way around: It's hard for startups to get capital because their failure rate is so high. If they go to the trouble to create a realistic business plan, in most cases they give up the idea immediately, because most of them have bad ideas for a startup business.

You know, there is a simple way around this: You organize your business as a partnership, so every person working in the business is a partner. You don't need a bunch of capital if the business is scaleable. You make a profit in the first month and just keep on scaling it up gradually. You end up with an employee owned business. You can make it unequal shares, if you want to maintain control.

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#307631 - 07/24/18 12:21 AM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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I wonder if you have any actual experience with these things, PIA?
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#307634 - 07/24/18 06:08 PM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: Greger]
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I've considered many startups with electronic engineering products only to find that they could not succeed. I've been a principle investigator on three different Small Business Innovative Research grants. These were grants from different government agencies that funded creation of a business plan. But my partner and I actually also used the money to build working prototypes. One from NASA was for a computer vision system that would have a recurring role on the ISS.

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#307642 - 07/25/18 03:55 AM Re: Round Table For July 2018 [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Trump-Cohen tape released. Wanna know what a conspiracy sounds like? Proof that Trump and Giuliani flat out lied (and still are).

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