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#308031 - 08/21/18 08:46 PM Justice is coming
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Manafort convicted on 8 charges. Michael Cohen pleads guilty to multiple counts of fraud and tax evasion.
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#308032 - 08/21/18 08:51 PM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Cohen pleads to 8 counts, TWO INVOLVE TRUMP. Michael Cohen surrenders to the FBI - CNN.

Paul Manafort found guilty on eight counts - CNN.

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#308035 - 08/21/18 10:16 PM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Trump is officially an unindicted Coconspirator: Cohen allocution. For the non-legally educated, the allocution is the testimony under oath of a person pleading guilty proving their guilt to the charge. And, it includes back up documentation.

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#308036 - 08/21/18 10:16 PM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
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When it rains, it pours! What is this, my birthday or something?

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#308038 - 08/21/18 11:06 PM Re: Justice is coming [Re: pondering_it_all]
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My wife just said, "well, that's two less Republican votes..."

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#308039 - 08/21/18 11:41 PM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
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I hope Cohen gets to go to a nice federal prison. You know, with big screen TVs, internet access, free Astrolube, etc. His crimes didn't directly kill anybody, unlike Manafort who is partly responsible for lots of dead people in The Ukraine.

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#308047 - 08/22/18 01:09 AM Re: Justice is coming [Re: pondering_it_all]
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I hope Cohen gets to go to a nice federal prison.

For a man once described as "looking like a cigarette smells" it's odd that I'm kind of sympathetic to his case as well.

Maybe it was that statement about his family and doing the right thing. Maybe it's that he made it clear early on he was gonna sing like a canary....and he knows stuff about Trump. All those crappy jobs he did for Trump and all those times he got sent out for coffee might come back to bite Trump in the ass.

Manafort is gonna get pardoned. But he also has a couple more trials coming up and a lot more charges. I'm thinking Manafort is practice for when Mueller actually charges Trump. He'll find out which charges stick and which ones don't.
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#308050 - 08/22/18 01:43 AM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Lots of Manafort's crimes have similar state crimes. Evading federal taxes makes it unlikely you filled in your state taxes correctly, but these are different crimes. State prosecution is in the works if he is pardoned. And since accepting a pardon means admitting you are guilty, the state case is a slam-dunk.

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#308052 - 08/22/18 02:10 AM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
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The only down side, Mike Pence and Paul Ryan are waiting in the wings cry eek
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#308063 - 08/22/18 04:51 AM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Depends on how fast the wheels of justice turn. If they both get booted after January, the Speaker will probably be a Democrat. If I was a Congressional Republican leader, I would convince Pence to resign now and get somebody who won't be impeached in the VP office, like Romney. Then at least they keep the Presidency until 2020.

That's what they did with Spiro Agnew and Nixon.

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