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#308096 - 08/23/18 07:27 PM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Apparently, because the Jackass claimed to have paid the money himself, and did not take it from the Campaign he committed not 1 crime but two. This is based on the money being spent to save the campaign so, it was a campaign crime and also a crime of bribery. I heard several law dogs explaining that.

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#308097 - 08/23/18 07:46 PM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Apparently, Trump is getting screwed (again), and has, again, been betrayed by his Pecker:

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#308100 - 08/24/18 05:49 AM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Slate has a pretty good article that explains some state has a double jeopardy law that prevents the state from trying somebody for a crime for which he has been found innocent or guilty. But it says nothing about somebody who had a mistrial! So that one juror actually increased Manafort's chances of being charged in that state. And most of the possible state's allow the use of previous convictions in their trials to show a pattern of criminal behavior. Since accepting a pardon is an admission of guilt, those state trials become slam-dunks.

A Lone Holdout Juror Actually Made It Mo...ump Pardons Him

Three states that can charge Manafort are California, New York, and Illinois: Very Blue states indeed!

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#308101 - 08/24/18 05:51 AM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Trump is now claiming that turning state's evidence should be illegal! This is not the statement of a normal law-abiding person. This is the statement of a crime boss.

My wife points out that the people in Congress who protect him are all members of that crime family.

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#308103 - 08/24/18 01:42 PM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Yea, the Rethuglican Family an amorphous organization spread through this country like a malignant cancer.
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#308104 - 08/24/18 02:26 PM Re: Justice is coming [Re: Ujest Shurly]
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NY Times: Manhattan DA looking at criminal charges against Trump Organization - CNN. For too long, Trump used his company and his foundation interchangeably as his personal piggy bank. Because of that, they are now subject to scrutiny. That is even WORSE for the President, as his lack of clothes will be available for all to see. Moreover, Pecker, Cohen, Trump and Manafort are all residents of New York, and Republicans don't have much influence there. As long as the prosecution is not "for the same conduct", New York has no restriction on prosecution.

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#308105 - 08/24/18 04:19 PM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Here, as elsewhere, people are outraged at what feels like a rigged game -- an economy that won't respond, a democracy that won't listen, and a financial sector that holds all the cards. - Robert Reich

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#308106 - 08/24/18 07:18 PM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer


An MSNBC pundit said that DOJ thinks there's "a lot of good juice that can be squeezed out of that lemon"...which made me wonder...

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#308107 - 08/24/18 07:54 PM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
Jeffery J. Haas Offline

It's the Despair Quotient!
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If POTUS & Pecker Paid a Pack of Pissed Off Porn Stars -
How Many Pissed Off Porn Stars Did POTUS & Pecker Pay?
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#308109 - 08/25/18 12:02 AM Re: Justice is coming [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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