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#308149 - 08/27/18 10:50 PM It’s the year 2038–here’s how we’ll eat 20 years in the future
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Marius Robles
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August 23, 2018

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It’s the year 2038. The word “flavor” has fallen into disuse. Sugar is the new cigarettes, and we have managed to replace salt with healthy plants.
 We live in a society in which we eat fruit grown using genetics. We drink synthetic wine, scramble eggs that do not come from chickens, grill meat that was not taken from animals, and roast fish that never saw the sea...

We can now teletransport food. The method of transportation that brought meals into our homes went from the motorcycle, bicycle, and robot, to a broadband connection. Instead of sending the food, we send its data. We can acquire recipes and dishes made by top chefs in their restaurants. Once we have “purchased” them, our 3D food printers can replicate them at home in a matter of seconds...

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#308152 - 08/28/18 12:49 AM Re: It’s the year 2038–here’s how we’ll eat 20 years in the future [Re: Golem]
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Complete fantasy when it comes to 3D printing food. That might happen in 100 years but not in 20. The big limitation on 3D printing is the very limited number of "inks" you can use. It is mostly a particular kind of plastic that melts in the print head and then solidifies on the target. Metal 3D printing sprays a mix of plastic and metal powder and then gets baked to burn off the plastic. Concrete 3D printers depend on concrete being near liquid when spraying and solidifying on the target.

Foodstuffs have VERY complex make-ups. You can't just spray a little of each amino acid onto a target and get meat. You would have to liquify the meat you want, and spray that liquid onto a target with some binder to make if solidify. It would have no resemblance to actual meat, but would be very like Spam or aspic. Which BTW is more than 100 year old technology.

Also sugar is the basic economy of the body. You can't replace it without changing our biochemistry. We already eat "fish that has never seen the sea" in the form of farmed fish. Our fruit is the product of thousands of years of selective breeding (genetics).

Article is a very poor mix of already existing things and things that are far far in the future.

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#308170 - 08/28/18 11:19 PM Re: It’s the year 2038–here’s how we’ll eat 20 years in the future [Re: pondering_it_all]
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To be honest, probably very little will change in the next 20 years.
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#308171 - 08/28/18 11:37 PM Re: It’s the year 2038–here’s how we’ll eat 20 years in the future [Re: Greger]
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The esteemed Donald Trump will still be POTUS. The guy is, and shall be, amazing!
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#308174 - 08/29/18 12:50 AM Re: It’s the year 2038–here’s how we’ll eat 20 years in the future [Re: Golem]
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I predict more "magic bullet" drugs for diseases, based on sequencing the human genome. More immune system cures for cancers. Big news: Some component of pot prevents and even helps mild Alzheimer's. Beginning of asteroid mining, all by robots. Lunar colony with many more robots than people. Massive human fatalities in the Persian Gulf states from heat stroke, rendering it uninhabitable for anyone too poor to run AC for months at a time. All the oil industry there will be like working on another planet. Methane clathrate release of methane gas from the not-so-permafrost really picking up. Global cooling engineering projects starting. Thorium reactors going online in the US. Many more in India.

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#308175 - 08/29/18 02:44 AM Re: It’s the year 2038–here’s how we’ll eat 20 years in the future [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Originally Posted By: pondering_it_all
Complete fantasy when it comes to 3D printing food. That might happen in 100 years but not in 20. The big limitation on 3D printing is the very limited number of "inks" you can use. It is mostly a particular kind of plastic that melts in the print head and then solidifies on the target. Metal 3D printing sprays a mix of plastic and metal powder and then gets baked to burn off the plastic. Concrete 3D printers depend on concrete being near liquid when spraying and solidifying on the target.

Foodstuffs have VERY complex make-ups. You can't just spray a little of each amino acid onto a target and get meat. You would have to liquify the meat you want, and spray that liquid onto a target with some binder to make if solidify. It would have no resemblance to actual meat, but would be very like Spam or aspic. Which BTW is more than 100 year old technology.

Also sugar is the basic economy of the body. You can't replace it without changing our biochemistry. We already eat "fish that has never seen the sea" in the form of farmed fish. Our fruit is the product of thousands of years of selective breeding (genetics).

Article is a very poor mix of already existing things and things that are far far in the future.


To be honest they were talking more along the lines of mimicking the flavors, injecting the essence so to speak, thus it would still be an ersatz approximation of the real thing, "imprinted" most likely upon base foodstuff materials, and they were saying that "we can" print but they didn't say that it would be the only approach.
Bioreactors in every kitchen might mean that we "grow" our meats, for instance.
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#308181 - 08/29/18 04:01 AM Re: It’s the year 2038–here’s how we’ll eat 20 years in the future [Re: Golem]
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We can grow something now that is pretty meat-like. Impossible Burgers are all plant and fungal-based. They use a bio-engineered yeast to make heme. Not muscle heme as in hemoglobin, but soy-based leghemoglobin. Close enough so their burger "bleeds" unless you cook it well-done. Tastes like beef to most people. Has more calories, sodium, and saturated fat than beef, so it's actually not as healthy as lean ground beef!

Well, they were trying for good taste, not more healthy. But at current prices, I think they should have made synthetic filet mignon instead of ground beef. I bet it wouldn't cost any more and the very uniform texture might actually be easier.

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#308209 - 08/30/18 01:02 AM Re: It’s the year 2038–here’s how we’ll eat 20 years in the future [Re: pondering_it_all]
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I could see beef tenderloin being grown in a lab before they come up with a vegetable substitute that mimics the texture of fine grained muscle.

But why do that? Cows are already self replicating.
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