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#308319 - 09/05/18 10:28 PM President Petty and Ineffective - a danger to the Republic
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The New York Times published a stunning op-ed on Wednesday, written by an anonymous, senior official in President Donald Trump‘s White House.

Calling the publication of an anonymous op-ed a “rare step” in their preamble, the Times notes the story was being published at the request of the author, and offers “an important perspective.”

The official writes:

Quote:
The dilemma — which he does not fully grasp — is that many of the senior officials in his own administration are working diligently from within to frustrate parts of his agenda and his worst inclinations.

I would know. I am one of them.
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#308321 - 09/06/18 12:11 AM Re: President Petty and Ineffective - a danger to the Republic [Re: pdx rick]
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And thank god they are! It would be a lot worse (like WW III worse) if they weren't. I think the big question is: Is anybody on Trump's staff (other than his kids) NOT doing this?

The question is important because if they are unanimous, an Amendment 25 action could be performed. I suspect such a thing would include a psychiatric commitment for Trump.

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#308322 - 09/06/18 12:18 AM Re: President Petty and Ineffective - a danger to the Republic [Re: pdx rick]
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What part of President Donald (Traitor, Un-indicted co-conspirator, off the rails) Trump's administration is about to hit the fan...

hitsfan

If the anonymous Op-Ed author were truly concerned about the well being of the United States, our democracy, and the institution of the Presidency why is the coward not advocating for a 25th amendment resolution at the least or impeachment at the worst?

As it stands right now, we have a shadow government, something akin to a Star Chamber. Every Officer of the government has sworn an oath to uphold, protect and defend the constitution against all enemies both foreign and domestic. Well?


even if the usage is contrived, I like that emote.
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#308323 - 09/06/18 02:50 AM Re: President Petty and Ineffective - a danger to the Republic [Re: pdx rick]
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I think that Vice President "Lodestar" Pence wrote the Op-Ed. smile

Lodestar is a very, very uncommon word and it appears in the Op-Ed. In a speech Vice President Mike Pence made to the United Nations in 2017, saying that the NGO “must again be our lodestar, our ideal, and our aspiration.” Hmm
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#308324 - 09/06/18 04:31 AM Re: President Petty and Ineffective - a danger to the Republic [Re: pdx rick]
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Mike Pence = Veep throat

smile
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#308325 - 09/06/18 04:37 AM Re: President Petty and Ineffective - a danger to the Republic [Re: pdx rick]
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I think you should attribute that, but you are probably right.

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#308328 - 09/06/18 01:40 PM Re: President Petty and Ineffective - a danger to the Republic [Re: pdx rick]
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Odds on who did it per MyBookie.com

Vice President Pence (2-to-3), Education Secretary Betsy Devos (2-to-1), Secretary of State Mike Pompeo (4-to-1), Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin (4-to-1), chief of staff John F. Kelly (4-to-1), Defense Secretary Jim Mattis (5-to-1), Attorney General Jeff Sessions (5-to-1), Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke (6-to-1), Agriculture Secretary Sonny Perdue (6-to-1), Commerce Secretary Wilbur Ross (7-to-1) Labor Secretary Alex Acosta (7-to-1), HHS Secretary Alex Azar (8-to-1), HUD Secretary Ben Carson (8-to-1), VA Secretary Robert Wilkie (8-to-1), Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen (10-to-1), Ivanka Trump (12-to-1) and Jared Kushner (12-to-1).
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#308329 - 09/06/18 03:02 PM Re: President Petty and Ineffective - a danger to the Republic [Re: pdx rick]
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Of that listing I would say only Sec Mattis and CoS Kelley would have the understanding of the deep danger we are in and would actually try to represent the ideals of the Constitution. A close second is Sec Nielsen. I think she understands the gravity of the situation (even if Sen Graham doesn't) and may possibly conspire with Mattis and Kelley to consider 25.

AG Sessions, even though, attacked daily would never be disloyal regardless of the mental state of Mr Trump.

VP Pence sold his soul for the agenda above all else, so why would he care? I think Sec Pompeo falls into this category.

The rest are Trump tools and would never consider being disloyal.

I think one can see the underlying motif here. Fealty to Mr Trump or to uphold the Constitution and its ideals.

I argued long ago 25 would not be viable. I have long argued impeachment won't work. The only option left is to vote him out. Sen Graham thinks he will win 2020. I think we have a lot of delusional folks running government. The sad fact is, unless the Democrats can find a persuasive message, there is a real possibility Mr Trump would win 2020.
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#308330 - 09/06/18 03:38 PM Re: President Petty and Ineffective - a danger to the Republic [Re: rporter314]
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Originally Posted By: rporter314
Of that listing I would say only Sec Mattis and CoS Kelley would have the understanding of the deep danger we are in and would actually try to represent the ideals of the Constitution.

I'm sure Melania has read, and been tested on, the Constitution (as an immigrant) and she lives with the guy (sometimes) so she would have a deep understanding of his "crazy". The odds should be quite high on her.
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#308333 - 09/06/18 07:14 PM Re: President Petty and Ineffective - a danger to the Republic [Re: pdx rick]
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something overlooked is the possibility there were more than one author writing under the synonym "anonymous".

Consider the reference to a group whispering 25. Certainly they would know who the author is and in fact they may all be the author.
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