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#308477 - 09/14/18 02:58 AM Re: Flor-i-duh's Governor's Race [Re: pondering_it_all]
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The Okeechobee problem isn't Rick Scott's fault. It started a hundred years ago when they began draining swamps for farmland. Before long people started building on that drained swampland. Soon there were towns and communities there. Then, in 1930 or so, flooding from a hurricane killed a few thousand people(2700 maybe?) south of the lake when the dykes failed. That's when they built the big dyke and diverted the water east and west.
They grow sugarcane down there and the runoff from the farmland pollutes the lake so when they release water into the rivers it creates a toxic sludge.

Our former governor who is now running for the senate did nothing to help fix it since republicans hate to spend money fixing stuff, but he's blaming his opponent for not fixing it up in Washington...Big Sugar is heavily subsidized. There are huge tariffs in place to prevent the importation of cheap foriegn sugar...

We got us a mess down here.
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#308487 - 09/14/18 07:14 AM Re: Flor-i-duh's Governor's Race [Re: Greger]
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Quote:
The Okeechobee problem isn't Rick Scott's fault.


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Gov. Rick Scott — who ordered budget cuts to water-management agencies for five consecutive years and dismantled the Department of Community Affairs, which regulated growth and agreed to postpone cleaning up the lake


Florida gutted water quality monitoring – as killer algae increased

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Over the last decade, as the state fought federal efforts to protect water, shrunk its own environmental and water-management agencies, and cut funding to an algae task force, monitoring for water quality has plummeted.


Of course Scott didn't personally go out there and pollute the lake, but he did everything he could to ignore the problem and starve the things that were working to limit it. It's a problem with scientists versus builders and farmers: Guess who Scott listened to?

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#308493 - 09/14/18 08:42 PM Re: Flor-i-duh's Governor's Race [Re: pondering_it_all]
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Oh yeah. He's a regulation and tax slashing, pro-business TEA Party arsewipe and he governed just like you'd expect one to govern. He came into office at this point in Obama's presidency it's fitting he should be swept out as Democrats dominate this election.
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#308511 - 09/15/18 07:49 PM Re: Flor-i-duh's Governor's Race [Re: Greger]
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Worst case scenario....Scott has now promised(if indirectly) to fix the water problems at the federal level. Failure will make him unpopular and he will be replaced after a single term...albeit an almost eternal 6 year term.

DeSantis will prove to be a devastating governor, water problems will get worse as he panders to Trumpian pro business tax and regulation slashing. We need some serious infrastructure work and Republicans don't go for that.

If the Blue Wave fails to materialize then we just continue to give Republicans more rope. They will eventually hang themselves. History is very clear on that.
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#308539 - 09/17/18 04:44 AM Re: Flor-i-duh's Governor's Race [Re: pdx rick]
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Welp, Greger, Rasmussen, the GOP-leaning polling agency, has Gillum +6 for Friday, September 14th 2018, over DeSanits. smile

Have hope that this trend stays this way. Bow
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#308542 - 09/17/18 07:49 AM Re: Flor-i-duh's Governor's Race [Re: pdx rick]
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I think Republicans may have a major albatross-around-the-neck problem for their botched Puerto Rico hurricane response. Yes, not that many people died directly from the hurricane, but nobody blames anyone but God for those deaths. It's the thousands that died afterwards because the government's response was so lame or non-existent. They should have had clean water for everybody on the island within one day, and they should have had power restored in a few days, not months. They needed boots on the ground, tent shelters with AC up, MREs for everybody, several emergency power generating ships in all the harbors, generators in every inland village, etc. And medical evacuations to a hospital ship in the harbor. All stuff the Trump administration failed to do.

Now thousands of those boricuas are in Florida, and can vote! Not to mention all the concerns floridians have about a similar federal response for when THEY get hit with another Maria or Florence. Republican refusal to spend anything on infrastructure or emergencies can affect the governor's race in a big way.

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#308548 - 09/17/18 06:19 PM Re: Flor-i-duh's Governor's Race [Re: pondering_it_all]
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I'm guardedly optimistic about the elections here. My district will vote for DeSantis by a wide margin. Tampa Bay Times has reported that amid Scott's claims of job growth during his administration, 36 Florida counties actually lost jobs.

Even amid economic collapse and personal loss in rural Florida counties under Republican governance they will AGAIN vote for Scott. Because they are redneck Republicans, they watch FOX News, and they don't have sense enough to come in out of the rain.

These people LOVE the smell of albatross in the morning.
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