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#308619 - 09/25/18 02:46 AM Re: The End of the Independent Judiciary [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Originally Posted By: NW Ponderer
I was genuinely astounded that Alito cited to a Lochner-era precedent in his Janus v. AFSCME opinion. That case has been so thoroughly discredited that no rational jurist would rely upon it.


Don't tease us. Please link to something, even just the name of the Lochner Era case itself.
BTW, I see that he referenced Powell. He also makes reference to questionable theories about "unfunded liabilities" in the Illinois budget. Are we to surmise that SCOTUS has now ruled on unfunded liabilities as if they are an altogether consistent and real financial issue?
That's a whole new can of worms.
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#308620 - 09/25/18 01:05 PM Re: The End of the Independent Judiciary [Re: rporter314]
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I may be prescient

I heard it this morning Mr Trump IS the story here there and everywhere all the time, day and night

so, Mr Trump, you can not achieve anything more than that, so please resign and allow a rational normal person to be president
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#308621 - 09/25/18 01:36 PM Re: The End of the Independent Judiciary [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Where is our modern day Diogenes when you need him.
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#308622 - 09/25/18 03:33 PM Re: The End of the Independent Judiciary [Re: NW Ponderer]
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No need for Mr Diogenes & his antiquated lantern ... the truth is what Mr Trump says it is ... period/s.

well ... at least 35% of Americans believe that
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#308626 - 09/25/18 04:15 PM Re: The End of the Independent Judiciary [Re: rporter314]
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Originally Posted By: rporter314
No need for Mr Diogenes & his antiquated lantern ... the truth is what Mr Trump says it is ... period/s.

well ... at least 35% of Americans believe that


If that translates to votes in November we're golden.
But it never seems to work that way.
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#308628 - 09/25/18 04:56 PM Re: The End of the Independent Judiciary [Re: Greger]
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I see Kaveman's ex-roommate at Yale says he believes Ramirez because, though the guy was reserved when sober, he was a notoriously heavy drinker and a belligerent and incoherent drunk.

I'd say, "stick a fork in him, he's toast!"
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#308629 - 09/25/18 05:24 PM Re: The End of the Independent Judiciary [Re: logtroll]
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From your keyboard to god's screen...

But, I wouldn't be in such a hurry to fork your toast. In a sane world, of course you're right. But this is Republican Bizzaro World where nothing is as it seems it should be.
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#308630 - 09/25/18 06:25 PM Re: The End of the Independent Judiciary [Re: Greger]
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My expectation is that Kaveman's growing body of evidence of being a liar will count for more than the "he said, she said" sexual assault allegations, i.e. that he would have us believe that he was an altar boy amongst the Bacchanalian Brigade, when in fact he may have been a nephew of Old Bacchus hisself.

It will only take a few semi-ethical Senators to sink his ship. I think he will disappear from the nomination stage with a quick yank of the venerable sheep herder's crook ere long.
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#308631 - 09/25/18 06:38 PM Re: The End of the Independent Judiciary [Re: logtroll]
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So, I heard that you were at the library 20 years ago and grabbed Miss Crabtree's ass. Miss Crabtree has decided to come forward and ruin your life because she doesn't like liberals. I think that you should suffer the consequences of an over active imagination and selective memory. Oh yeah, Mr. Crabtree also says you grabbed him, but he didn't mind.

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#308633 - 09/25/18 07:04 PM Re: The End of the Independent Judiciary [Re: NW Ponderer]
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I will be very surprised if Kavenaugh is not sworn in as the next member of the Supremes. He will then be the second right wing liar to be appointed (Thomas being the first). The Dems however have done an absolutely great job on this one. Its really no longer about Kavenaugh to the Supremes and is now all about whether Kavenaugh is a liar. No matter what the right does they are going lose on this one, even if the Kavenaugh appointment goes through.

Again - this is, as far as I am concerned, the fault of the Democratic party that seemed to goto sleep around 2009 and woke up to the simple fact that the Republicans had virtually taken over all the states, took over the congress and worked hard to suppress anybody not voting for the right with some success, and have been lying with nary a squawk from the left.


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