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#308814 - 10/04/18 06:35 PM Re: The End of the Independent Judiciary [Re: NW Ponderer]
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You have to consider them seriously ... they have more than a foothold in them political arena
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#308822 - 10/05/18 04:45 PM Re: The End of the Independent Judiciary [Re: NW Ponderer]
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The cloture vote was 51-49 with one crossover from each party.

Sen Manchin may vote no because he would have some cover but it would depend on Sen Collins. I suspect she will vote yes. If he votes no then J Kavanaugh would get confirmed.

I don't know how Democrats would act if one of their nominees acted the same way J Kavanaugh acted. Maybe they would be just as hypocritical. All I know is I would not vote for a nominee who while qualified did not have the appropriate demeanor to be a SCJ. I had idealistically believed for a long time there was still some integrity in Washington but I was and am mistaken.

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#308824 - 10/05/18 08:13 PM Re: The End of the Independent Judiciary [Re: NW Ponderer]
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I think its pretty interesting to what extent that the Republicans will go to get Kavanaugh into the supreme court. I watch the guy who heads up the Federalist Society. He said that all the judges they recommended were, basically, the same and they didn't pick any favorites in that list. Be that as it may, the Evangelicals have apparently told the Republicans its Kavanaugh or they are going to walk so they better get it done which, I think, makes him their guy?

It would also seem that the religious, other than the Evangelicals don't agree.
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/churches-kavanaugh-nomination-withdrawn/

One can only wonder? Oh, and praise the Lord?


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#308825 - 10/05/18 08:53 PM Re: The End of the Independent Judiciary [Re: jgw]
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I think its pretty interesting to what extent that the Republicans will go to get Kavanaugh into the supreme court.


It's a political pissing contest. They can't ever once let the enemy get the upper hand. They took some damage but they stood by their refusal to ever compromise on anything.
Merrick Garland didn't hurt them, this won't hurt them.
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#308831 - 10/06/18 12:44 PM Re: The End of the Independent Judiciary [Re: Greger]
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I think its pretty interesting to what extent that the Republicans will go to get Kavanaugh into the supreme court.


It's a political pissing contest. They can't ever once let the enemy get the upper hand. They took some damage but they stood by their refusal to ever compromise on anything.
Merrick Garland didn't hurt them, this won't hurt them.
But, it WILL hurt Us, plenty.

I'm currently at the happiest place on earth, it's my birthday, but, I'm miserable at the place we find ourselves, politically and socially, with the farce of a hearing, the joke of an "investigation", and the cavalier bullying in the Senate. That someone as richly undeserving of elevation to the Supreme Court, and as unpopular and unrepresentative, as Brett Kavanaugh, is about to be, is unnerving. It's hard to be happy and idealistic in such pessimistic times. No one in power cares about "The good of the country" anymore.

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#308841 - 10/07/18 02:55 PM Re: The End of the Independent Judiciary [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Chief Justice John Roberts has been sitting on ‘more than a dozen’ judicial complaints against Kavanaugh for three weeks: report
Raw Story
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