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#308986 - 10/19/18 08:54 PM Re: The Midterms [Re: pondering_it_all]
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It's going to take people dying for Republican voters to see what a bad idea this is.

Since when has people dying bothered Republican voters?
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#308987 - 10/20/18 02:24 AM Re: The Midterms [Re: Greger]
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Let me make that clear: It's going to take Trump supporter's family members dying, for them to figure out something is wrong. And make no mistake about it, with that crap insurance they will.

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#308990 - 10/20/18 04:16 AM Re: The Midterms [Re: jgw]
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I am not convinced the wave will be so large.

The House is within reach. Far more important long term is winning the states.

While you may see and know Mr Trump for what he is, there is a relatively large chunk of Americans who believe he is the savior of America, despite, for what they think, are peccadillos.
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#308995 - 10/21/18 01:06 AM Re: The Midterms [Re: Greger]
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the violence THEY INTEND to commit.


Up until now the anger on the left has been under control. For as long as I can remember the anger on the right has been palpable, ready to explode into violence at the drop of a hat.

The Antifa crowd is about to drop the hat.


Antifa are no friend to Democrats.



Attacks on Dems, libs, journos...anyone not in their narrow anarchistic/communist purview. The scales have fallen from the eyes of those on the liberal side.
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#308996 - 10/21/18 01:09 AM Re: The Midterms [Re: rporter314]
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I am not convinced the wave will be so large.


Nor am I, though in my heart of hearts I continue to hope.
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#308997 - 10/21/18 01:26 AM Re: The Midterms [Re: Jeffery J. Haas]
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Originally Posted By: Jeffery J. Haas
Originally Posted By: Greger
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the violence THEY INTEND to commit.


Up until now the anger on the left has been under control. For as long as I can remember the anger on the right has been palpable, ready to explode into violence at the drop of a hat.

The Antifa crowd is about to drop the hat.


Antifa are no friend to Democrats.



Attacks on Dems, libs, journos...anyone not in their narrow anarchistic/communist purview. The scales have fallen from the eyes of those on the liberal side.

A photo of some paint from unknown author and you condemn antifa Jeff?


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#308998 - 10/21/18 01:57 AM Re: The Midterms [Re: jgw]
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As far as I have seen, Antifa is quite defensive. They tend to show up wherever Nazis and KKK group, and don't really attack so much as defend other protesters from alt-right violence. I think it's good that SOMEBODY is punching Nazis in the face. The whole Greatest Generation did, but we're all a little too tolerant to do that now. Personally, I'd like to see Nazis crawl back under the rocks they came from, and KKK return to hiding behind their masks for fear of arrest.

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#309001 - 10/21/18 03:09 AM Re: The Midterms [Re: jgw]
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I agree with PIA here Jeff. What evidence do you have that the Antifacists are targeting anyone but Fascists?

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#309002 - 10/21/18 04:14 AM Re: The Midterms [Re: Greger]
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as do I but what I am seeing is something every person should think about ... I think

I believe it is clear Mr Trump would pull the plug on democracy if he thought he could get away with it. His supporters would probably show their support if he did. His problem is of course the elected few preventing him from doing it.

So I have to wonder ... is this what it was like in 1933 ... people looking for a savior ... people willing to sacrifice their freedom because they believe in a person ... are we as close now as they were then

scary ...
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#309003 - 10/21/18 06:01 AM Re: The Midterms [Re: rporter314]
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Originally Posted By: rporter314
as do I but what I am seeing is something every person should think about ... I think

I believe it is clear Mr Trump would pull the plug on democracy if he thought he could get away with it. His supporters would probably show their support if he did. His problem is of course the elected few preventing him from doing it.

So I have to wonder ... is this what it was like in 1933 ... people looking for a savior ... people willing to sacrifice their freedom because they believe in a person ... are we as close now as they were then

scary ...


I don't know, because in 1933 you didn't have hundreds of thousands of zombies who were taught to say, "Mumble mumble America is not a democracy...mumble mumble America is a republic and not a democracy." in a well funded attempt to advance inoculate in preparation for an attack ON democracy.

All else aside, yeah. We might be getting a little bit closer to what it might have been like in a certain European country in 1933.
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