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#309216 - 11/06/18 03:58 PM Election Day
Greger Offline

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Well, today's the day. Will "owning the libs" be enough incentive to get the Republicans out in greater numbers than Democrats?

Or will the "anger on the left" be enough to win the day?

Later tonight we'll find out for sure.

I'll be more than happy if Dems pick up a single seat in the senate, and I expect them to take the House. Florida desparately needs Gillum to win and for his victory to carry Senator Nelson to victory against Governor Rick Scott.

But we shall soon see.
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#309217 - 11/06/18 04:48 PM Re: Election Day [Re: Greger]
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i am ambivalent on any prediction. I think what Mr Trump has done is expose a very large constituency occupying the underbelly of a dark American bigotry.

I believe bigotry is the primary driving force of Mr Trump's supporters. Bigotry is an irrational fear of others. It is an irrational belief in superiority over others. Irrationality is the key. It fits in the narcissists playbook. Feed the fear. It is effective when your supporters are irrational.

Today I am from Missouri. I have to see it.
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#309220 - 11/06/18 05:08 PM Re: Election Day [Re: Greger]
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If you're from Missouri, vote McCaskill..... heh. No early voting in Missouri, by the way, and you can bet there will be 3% "miscounted" votes, so she needs to win by more than that. R Voter fraud much greater threat than election hacking, Missouri's Jay Ashcroft says (KC Star).

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#309221 - 11/06/18 07:04 PM Re: Election Day [Re: Greger]
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Not so much need to correct the record on voting fraud, since the actual records show that it is virtually non-existent. What needs to be fixed is all the Republicans lying about it, so they can suppress legitimate voting. Suppression causes thousands of times as much damage to the voting process.

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#309223 - 11/06/18 07:46 PM Re: Election Day [Re: rporter314]
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Quote:
Today I am from Missouri. I have to see it.


LOL

I didn't mean to really make a prediction, that's just what it would take for me to get any satisfaction out of this election. Historically speaking, elections have seldom been happy times for me and I think the 2016 election broke something inside me. That wound is still fresh but there are a lot of old wounds that still ache when the political winds blow cold. Bush vs Gore, Bush re-election. The Obama hope thing barely lasted two years before Republicans blasted it out of the water. They've been kicking our asses ever since. I've learned to just hunker down and expect the worst.

And yeah...Bigotry/fear/irrationality...that's the Grand Old Party in a nutshell.
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#309224 - 11/06/18 08:05 PM Re: Election Day [Re: NW Ponderer]
rporter314 Offline
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SoS Ashcroft is wrong and right.

First the right. Yes some elections are very close, so voter integrity should be paramount in the minds of those who oversee elections.

Wrong. If he believes Russian hacking did not influence any voters then he should also believe that all the money donors give to candidates does not sway voters.

The question is and always will be, how many voters were influenced. Based on known voter fraud cases (and almost all ... about 99.99% of all cases ... are individuals being stupid ... the other 0.01% are actual cases of voters trying to subvert an election with a few votes) I would guess there were more than the handful of individuals who committed voter fraud who were influenced by Russian meddling. I can not say more than 80k people were influenced, but almost certainly more than the handful of known voter fraud cases.
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#309226 - 11/06/18 08:25 PM Re: Election Day [Re: rporter314]
Greger Offline

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Quote:
SoS Ashcroft is wrong and right.


Nope. He's a Republican. He's lying.
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#309236 - 11/06/18 10:47 PM Re: Election Day [Re: Greger]
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Hello Hello Hello old friends. its that time again!

Taken tomorrow off, got a crate of beer and settling down for an evenings electioneering.

America, do not F*ck it up this time!


Edited by Schlack (11/06/18 10:48 PM)
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#309237 - 11/06/18 10:50 PM Re: Election Day [Re: Schlack]
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#309238 - 11/06/18 11:30 PM Re: Election Day [Re: Schlack]
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Loc: Florida
Good to see ya Schlack! If we f*ck it up this time, stick a fork in us. We're done.
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