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#309900 - 12/16/18 07:24 PM Re: ICE - the new gestapo [Re: jgw]
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On the upside the Dems have already announced an investigation into shutting down ICE as well as investigating this like this and punishing the offenders.

The house may be a new distraction almost as good as Jackass twitters, lies, and claims?

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#309972 - 12/21/18 08:45 PM Re: ICE - the new gestapo [Re: jgw]
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Putting the brakes on Trump lawlessness at the border: Supreme Court upholds block on Trump's asylum ban (CNN). Notes: Kavanaugh sided with Trump, Roberts did not. New DHS policy forcing applicants into Mexico will likely fall next. This is likely to be an early issue in the new Congress.

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#310629 - 01/29/19 05:37 AM Re: ICE - the new gestapo [Re: NW Ponderer]
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I was spouting mad reading a news article today: Libyan-American comedian says CBP called him 'illegal,' demanded his papers on bus (the Hill). THIS WAS IN F&#9828;&#9825;ING SPOKANE, WASHINGTON!! How does the Border Patrol think SPOKANE is in its jurisdiction? It's 250 miles from any border. Now the Gestapo CBP is randomly searching buses for brown-skinned people, pulling them off of public transportation, and demanding their papers. Does that give anyone else pause?

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#310632 - 01/29/19 03:17 PM Re: ICE - the new gestapo [Re: jgw]
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Here, this may help - Authority of U.S. Customs and Border Protection Agents: An Overview

Depends where they stopped him. Direct distant from Spokane to the Canadian Border is approximately 105 miles by road (google)

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#310635 - 01/29/19 07:40 PM Re: ICE - the new gestapo [Re: Ujest Shurly]
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This was at the SPOKANE bus station. You're right, though, 110 miles to the border crossing (Google let me down). CBP claims jurisdiction within 100 air miles. This should wake people up to just how intrusive CBP is getting - no "articulable suspicion" required. I wouldn't get off the bus: but they wouldn't bother me, I'm lily-white. Seriously, I've seen this scene in virtually every movie about Nazi Germany.

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#310638 - 01/29/19 09:44 PM Re: ICE - the new gestapo [Re: jgw]
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I remember, years ago, I was with my wife and her relatives and we went to mexico. On our way back we were stopped immigration. Except for me the entire car was filled up with Mexicans! My wife, all her relatives, etc. So, they pulled me out of the car and asked me a bunch of questions and my documentation. I pointed out to them that I was the only one in the car not speaking spanish and not Mexican.

He just ignored me! That was my introduction to these folks and, now, they get to do other stuff. Up here we have an ice office at the city limits. It has a year with raxor wire and everything. One of their folks requested that he be sent back to the southern border as there was nothing to do here. He eventually got fired. The boss of ice, up in Bellingham, I think, was charged and convicted of child abuse along with some other stuff - never got fired. I have said this but, again.

They went into the community of forks and put roadblock on every street, interrogated kids in the third grade who looked hispanic, stopped every bus on the highway, etc. They never got to arrest anybody but they pissed off EVERYBODY. Everytime the sheriff got a call ICE was there too. finally the sheriff told them he didn't want them around when they answered calls. There is more but, I betcha, you get the point?

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#310640 - 01/30/19 05:55 AM Re: ICE - the new gestapo [Re: jgw]
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ICE is planning an "interrogation" facility in my neighborhood. I've been looking into whether there is anything that can be done to stop it. It's unlikely that our City Council objects. They have rather "conservative" views about law enforcement issues. It's unnecessary. It's unwanted. But, I'm sure they'll find a reason to "justify" it. Local views don't really matter to them.

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#310652 - 01/30/19 08:53 PM Re: ICE - the new gestapo [Re: jgw]
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The trick is to make sure your law enforcement tells them not to 'help' or they will get driven crazy by these jerks. They will, of course, also go into your schools unless they tell them not to. Seems that they will do what locals tell them if the locals tell them. I don't know where you are but they now have hired so many that they are speading them out and its not unusual that they don't have anything else to do - literally!

Good luck!

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#310655 - 01/30/19 09:26 PM Re: DHS - the new gestapo [Re: jgw]
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I live in Lakewood, South of Tacoma. The reason for the interrogation facility is, apparently, they are running out of room at the Tacoma detention facility. They are moving "ancillary" activities out.

I'm not sure that most Washingtonians realize that most of the State, and nearly all of the residents, are claimed to be in CBP territory. 100 "air miles" covers everything West of the Cascades and North of Spokane. Walla Walla and Pullman might be spared, but that's why they haunt the bus stations. Most of California and Oregon are similarly situated. CBP needs to be reined in, by law or court order. Unfortunately, the courts are being peopled by unqualified zealots, xenophobes, homophobes, and protonazis.

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