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#309853 - 12/14/18 01:37 AM Re: Justice is coming [Re: pondering_it_all]
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I'm not sure I can keep up with the headlines! Butina flips! Trump was in the room with Cohen and Pecker! New investigation of Trump inauguration committee! And, tomorrow is Friday...

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#309854 - 12/14/18 01:59 AM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
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BTW, I've been wondering about how aggressive the SDNY US Attorney has been in pursuing Trump, etc. So, I looked him up: Geoffrey Berman. A) he worked on Iran Contra, B) he's been an Assistant US Attorney, and C) he was appointed by the District Court after Jeff Sessions appointed him as interim US Attorney, because Trump has made no appointment. His loyalty is to the law.

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#309864 - 12/14/18 06:16 PM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
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I remain convinced that the Jackass Administration is a criminal enterprise. Everything we have learned, so far, would tend to support that belief. If it is correct then the 'boss' is taking a 'little taste' of everything his underlings have been able to beg, borrow, or steal. I believe that because that is how criminal enterprises are run.

I also believe that, eventually, we will learn that Jackass put a little bit into his pockets. A little bit of his coronation expenses, a little bit of his election expenses, you know, a little bit from everything. The Saudis, for instance, are booking all sorts of rooms in his hotels. They don't use the rooms, just pay for them. This goes on and on and, I also think, just about everybody knows about it. My fond hope is that the prosecutor knows a LOT more than anybody else and part of that is the ability to prove the criminal enterprise. Once that gets done we will then also get to watch the Republican lovers of their dear leader explain it all to us.

Just waiting for Justice to come!

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#309865 - 12/14/18 06:20 PM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Although I don't do it often, it is occasionally illuminating to see how TrumpTV is spinning the day's news: Former FEC commissioners: Trump-Cohen 'hush' payments not necessarily a violation (Fox). (I'm not sure that it is even rational to discuss Fox as a "news" organization anymore. It is an organ of the Trump administration, pure and simple. The fact that they are integrated so deeply and coordinated so thoroughly demonstrates this every day.) The fact that they had to turn to a Bush recess appointed FEC member, Hans Von Spakovsky - who couldn't get a confirmation because of his obvious bias - and the FEC member and chairman, Bradley Smith, widely considered the worst FEC appointment ever made - proves so much.

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#309867 - 12/14/18 08:42 PM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
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I had a fantasy thought, earlier. What if the secret subpoena fight (Reporters shooed away as mystery Mueller subpoena fight rages on - politico) IS about Trump, and he loses. Then, Trump, like Nixon, resigns so that he can get a pardon from Pence. Pence, though, is so feckless, and mired in Trump muck that his presidency collapses...

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#309869 - 12/14/18 09:17 PM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
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#309872 - 12/15/18 01:08 AM Re: Justice is coming [Re: rporter314]
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Is that the sound of history passing by licitly split?
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#309879 - 12/15/18 07:31 AM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
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Trump is looking for a new Chief of Staff and everybody is running out the door! Apparently, they all think that's a good way to wind up in prison. Nobody wants to be the Main Steward on the Trumptanic.

It will be interesting to see if Sessions gets charged with anything. I know he met with the Russian Ambassador (and probably discussed ending sanctions) and then lied about it to Congress. He recused himself very early on, and he probably had a real good reason for doing that. Has Mueller had Sessions in "for a talk" now that he's a private citizen and not Mueller's boss? Has Sessions flipped to make that "Get Out Of Jail" card valid? John Mitchel was Nixon's AG and he did 2 years in the Big House.

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#309882 - 12/15/18 05:15 PM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
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If you compare this to the atrocities committed in Viet Nam and Cambodia in the 60s & 70s or the invasion of Iraq and the murders of 100s of thousands of civilians in the 2000s and nobody in a position of power has been charged with war crimes, this too will be a minor blip on the radar if history and Trump will die of old age in the comfort of his penthouse.

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#309884 - 12/15/18 07:02 PM Re: Justice is coming [Re: NW Ponderer]
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the difference is between government policies and personal corruption. Both will have their place in historical ignominy.

I believe the Grand Experiment is a Work in Progress and my hope is we learn the right lessons from our mistakes.
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